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Funny isn't it
It's weird isn't it, they conveniently forget rashford also "limped off" against Burton but still found himself in the starting line up at the weekend or that fellani is doing really well in pogba's position and will never in a million years think of a rotation between those twoFunny isn't it
I don't know how you guys do it and keep going back and forth with posters who aren't up nor interested in any rational debate.
The first thing I do in threads is identify them irrational posters and simply ignore to engage in what would be futile and endless debates with them.
This is what I have been saying in a nutshell. Mata won't lose the ball as cheaply as Mkhitaryan so our build up would improve massively and Martial seems to be growing as a wide playmaker which would complement Mata, Lukaku andi Rashford more. I think we should be playing that front 4 against teams we expect to beat then play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 against the more difficult sides with Ander coming in to add bite. Mkhitaryan should be on the bench until he learns to get the basics right or be on train to scouseland to join the growing legion of United rejects at Everton.
This is what I have been saying in a nutshell. Mata won't lose the ball as cheaply as Mkhitaryan so our build up would improve massively and Martial seems to be growing as a wide playmaker which would complement Mata, Lukaku andi Rashford more. I think we should be playing that front 4 against teams we expect to beat then play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 against the more difficult sides with Ander coming in to add bite. Mkhitaryan should be on the bench until he learns to get the basics right or be on train to scouseland to join the growing legion of United rejects at Everton.
Did he play as well against Southampton and Everton? Honestly speaking do you think Martial would have been given as long a leash if had been the one to play as shit as Rashford did against Everton? If the players were being treated equally and merit was being applied there wouldn't be this debate but one is being held back and the other being given the platform to learn and perform. Despite that blatant favouritism Martial is still just as productive but being denied proportionate rewards.
Did he play as well against Southampton and Everton? Honestly speaking do you think Martial would have been given as long a leash if had been the one to play as shit as Rashford did against Everton? If the players were being treated equally and merit was being applied there wouldn't be this debate but one is being held back and the other being given the platform to learn and perform. Despite that blatant favouritism Martial is still just as productive but being denied proportionate rewards.
Has to start vs Liverpool. After the last international break Jose picked most of the players who had been away with their national team and we looked so leggy vs Stoke. This time i would like us use players that stay behind.
Unless two of Rashford, Mata and Mkhitaryan pick up an injury and thus are unavailable, he has zero chance of starting. Lingard is more likely to start at Anfield under Mourinho.
The only reason i'd like him to start is because hes one of the few not going on international duty. But fair point. Jose approach to the Liverpool game wont be to go all out attack
And there are tons of reasons I want him to start, not least because I think he's our best attacking player but he won't start. Not a chance. He is very unlikely to start any big game this season, unless injuries force Mourinho's hand.
Also, I remember him giving Trent-Arnold Alexander a really tough night when we last played them when he was sulking for most of last season.
Might have something to do with the childish attitude he had last season. Rashford has been a model professional since Jose joined. Martial hasn't.
What childish attitude?
Sulking.
It's possible Jose prefers Rashford as a player, it's just that that seems odd to some, given that they think Martial is better than him.
Well Jose thinks Rashford is the superior player. And considering Rashford better rounded game, that's a perfectly reasonable conclusion.
In his opinion, which is obviously not shared by many posters on the caf, hence the debate.
It is shared by plenty. Just not the over zealous Martial fans who complain about his absence regardless of his our performance or indeed Rashfords. Rashford has been directly involved in 9 goals in 10 games and yet we are led to believe hes been shit. It's sad that so many united supporters vehemently criticise a wonderful young talent like Rashford just because their favourite player isn't getting as many minutes as they'd like.
Just another myth in the long running list of made up nonsense people have made up about Martial.
So it's a myth that his agent was openly talking up a loan move to Sevilla last season because Martial wasn't playing? Interesting.
It's accurate.
How is that a childish attitude? If we go by what agents say, so many players would fall under that category. And his agent never said he wanted to go on loan.
Mourinho also preferred Oscar to KDB, ask Chelsea fans how they feel with that now given how both players have turned out?
He had a good performance yesterday, apart from that he was shit against Everton and poor against Southampton ? don't see the big problem.
Oh look MThomas wants to tell everyone how shit Rashford is. You're becoming a parody mate.
Where did I say how shit Rashford is ? I said he was shit vs Everton, which he was, and poor vs Southampton, which he was.
What about Martial's 11 in 8? Is that not a great return considering the time spent on pitch by both players?
I fail to understand the point you're trying to make. Are you trying to tell me Jose is a poor judge of player? Or that in picking a player who has 9 goals/assists in 10 games and has a better rounded game than his counterpart is some catastrophic decision?
Oh would you stop whining? Mourinho wants to set his team out in a specific way and has specific tactics. Just because they play in the same position does not mean they offer the same things. How difficult is that to understand? Rashford offers him something specific and is carrying out instructions given to him by Mourinho.
You're continued criticism of the player and lauding of Martial in both this thread and the Rashford thread isn't transparent at all.
If you fail to understand the point regarding De Bruyne (Who is now a crucial player at City) and Lukaku (who is scoring for fun for us), who were both talents at Chelsea, I'm not sure if any of us can be of much assistance to you
It would make sense if the player who is in front of him wasn't playing incredibly well, but I wouldn't expect you to pick up on that while you're distracted photoshopping Martials face onto your family photos. The situations aren't remotely comparable.
It is a great return. I wouldn't argue that. Seeing as both players are returning similar figures then it's hardly a travesty Mourinho opts for the player who works harder defensively, runs more and has a better delivery from set pieces now, would it?
