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Same guy with a Schneiderlin crusade, right?Top tier talent. Jaybomb must be rolling in his e-grave.
Same guy with a Schneiderlin crusade, right?Top tier talent. Jaybomb must be rolling in his e-grave.
I mean in of the balls he possessed is on another level compared to Rashford and Lingard technically. Lingard and Rashford just can't run around defence like that with balls, only they're good at is off the movement but on the balls, they lack killer instinct and don't know how to use balls effectively. Dybala, Messi, Neymar, Costa, Hazard, Mbappe, Sterling, Sane, etc is the type of technical winger we should replace them with.Lingard is no slouch either. What are you smoking?
Had neither when we were successful, just sayin...Imagine a United team without him and Pogba...
Lingard scored many solo dribble goals, that was brilliant technically. I truly believe that Lingard has far better quick passing than Martial when he is on form. Right now, not so much.I mean in of the balls he possessed is on another level compared to Rashford and Lingard technically. Lingard and Rashford just can't run around defence like that with balls, only they're good at is off the movement but on the balls, they lack killer instinct and don't know how to use balls effectively. Dybala, Messi, Neymar, Costa, Hazard, Mbappe, Sterling, Sane, etc is the type of technical winger we should replace them with.
This is the thing doing my head in back then.He's been marked by two or even three men in games for a long time now. Tells you something about his perceived quality by the oppositions and unperceived quality by some of our supporters.
And the Lukaku crusade. Always with the cryptic ‘he’s a/not United player’.Same guy with a Schneiderlin crusade, right?
@Frank Grimes too.Top tier talent. Jaybomb must be rolling in his e-grave.
He should certainly take confidence from last night. He really came into it in the latter stages. Before that he looked a bit timid.You can see the shot of confidence the goals has given him, he's applying himself a lot more now in every phase. He will be a better player as a result and he can enjoy the spoils of the team winning a crucial game!
His best display of the season. Constant threat, great end produce and huge work without the ball. Just give him what Alexis is on, he’s never going to sign for less, Do it woody!
Not sure what that ref was on last night. They committed so many "tactical" fouls when we were getting opportunities to break. The ref didn't clamp down on them and only started brandishing yellows when we committed the fouls. Brown envelopes probably involved.I actually wonder if he needs to make more of a meal about being tackled. Look at how Hazard goes to ground every time a fly buzzes around him. He rolls around and squeals like an 8 year old girl (actually disrespecting 8 year old girls here). What happens is that the ref is quick to give out yellows to the defenders. Martial was constantly kicked and fouled yesterday, but he just gets back up and continues playing. Both Khedira and De Sciglio would have gotten yellows if Martial had been more theatrical.
Now, I want players to act like Martial does, but to me it looks like defenders are more or less instructed to take him out with soft fouls. When on a yellow, they know that have to cut that out and thus allow him more space, like Hazard gets.
Yes but if you are his agent, how do you credibly agree to take less than Alexis?
He could sign for half of that and still be one of the best paid players at the club
Easily. Martial is nowhere near the point where he can expect the sort of wages that more established players are on. If Tony consistently performs well over a long period of time, then he'll gradually increase his wages, but we're still at a point where he has barely established himself as a player under Mourinho, things can very easily go tits up again.Yes but if you are his agent, how do you credibly agree to take less than Alexis?
Yeah, I noticed that too. I was genuinly surprised when the ref, after careful and lengthy considerations, gave Sandro a yellow for the stamp on Young. The ref looked like he was about to brandish a red card to Matic for his yellow, the way he ran into Matic' face. De Sciglio commited two fouls on Martial within two minutes, but not a single comment from the ref. Khedira had several fouls and stopped a counter, nothing given. Not to mention the 50-50s that always went to Juventus.Not sure what that ref was on last night. They committed so many "tactical" fouls when we were getting opportunities to break. The ref didn't clamp down on them and only started brandishing yellows when we committed the fouls. Brown envelopes probably involved.
I was saying this to my mate at the pub yesterday, he didn’t even use any trickery at the end there, just navigated through the Juventus players at speed, with the ball glued to his feet. Delicious! A natural baller.That dribble and acceleration to leave Cuadrado and that other Juventus player in the dust was pure class. His counter before Rashford bottled it was also majestic. He just carries the ball at speed so much better than anyone in our team. Good to see him disciplined and on the front foot defensively as well.
Nothing to watch.Imagine a United team without him and Pogba...
When you realise nobody else in the world will pay you those wages?Yes but if you are his agent, how do you credibly agree to take less than Alexis?
Lvg was smart enough not to. He can have a devastating 10-15 minutes in a matchWonder how many points we dropped by subbing him off early over the years.
Hunger strike until he scores or has a MOTM performance. You'll be fat within a week, we're eating good alllllllll the timeThis Martial FC, how does one join? Long time believer and I deserve, no, demand to start eating good
He ain’t joining PSVYou will all be eating your words when he scored against us for Barca/Madrid/PSV and celebrates by exposing his impeccably defined glutes to us.
He ain’t joining PSV
If he adds that to his game then it would be scary. One of the only facets missing in his attacking play. He loved to carry the ball in those areas though so it would take some adjustment.Love him but just wish he would develop his off the ball movement more, so frustrating to watch sometimes. The amount of times he went behind Shaw to get the ball or just hung out on the touchline waiting for it. Make runs on the outside and inside of the full back to mix it up for gods sake Tony! If he added that I really think he can be on the level of the top wide forwards in the world.
My point is that Alexis’ deal distorts every subsequent negotiation, including Martial and DegeaWhen you realise nobody else in the world will pay you those wages?
It’s not a particularly good point though. It doesn’t affect their value to other clubs. So he can demand £300,000 a week all he wants. He’s not getting that anywhere and the fact remains that if it’s about money he’s likely to get more at Utd than anywhere else.My point is that Alexis’ deal distorts every subsequent negotiation, including Martial and Degea
You are very naive if you think big contracts given to new signings don’t heavily influence renewal negotiations with existing players. It’s called “wage structure” and it’s quite well known.It’s not a particularly good point though. It doesn’t affect their value to other clubs. So he can demand £300,000 a week all he wants. He’s not getting that anywhere and the fact remains that if it’s about money he’s likely to get more at Utd than anywhere else.
Not if they’re asking for way above market value. There’s no leverage if they can’t get the same money elsewhere.You are very naive if you think big contracts given to new signings don’t heavily influence renewal negotiations with existing players. It’s called “wage structure” and it’s quite well known.
A frustrating player. Has much potential, if he really gets to know his game, and what he is good at, and what he is not so good at.. because he isn't good at everything. I still feel he is trying to work that out, and this is a little worrying because he has been been at United, Monaco, Lyon (B).Love him but just wish he would develop his off the ball movement more, so frustrating to watch sometimes. The amount of times he went behind Shaw to get the ball or just hung out on the touchline waiting for it. Make runs on the outside and inside of the full back to mix it up for gods sake Tony! If he added that I really think he can be on the level of the top wide forwards in the world.
Because you know nobody is going to pay you that?Yes but if you are his agent, how do you credibly agree to take less than Alexis?
This. Even if we offer him half what Sanchez makes it’s still going to be considerably more than what he would make in open market.It’s not a particularly good point though. It doesn’t affect their value to other clubs. So he can demand £300,000 a week all he wants. He’s not getting that anywhere and the fact remains that if it’s about money he’s likely to get more at Utd than anywhere else.