Hopefully not, players should have proper preseason and understand the system.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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What a load of tosh. In what world is martial an average footballer.
While I'm not fully on board with the possibility of him getting back to his 19/20 level, I'm more hopeful now after realizing this is his 1st pre-season in 3 years.
If Ten Hag can get something out of Haller then he should be able to improve Martial hopefully.
Looks good so far.
Looks good so far.
Don't forget Bruno as well. Ronaldo on the pitch and he goes into hero ball mode and tunnel vision for Ronaldo. Ronaldo ends up being a vacuum for all attacks. Worked when he was as good as he was, not so much anymore (he'll still score plenty, but to the detriment of the team play).
Of course. But wanna bet that Ronaldo will get no9 position as soon as he comes back?
In a world where you judge players by their performances rather than whatever innate talent they have.
His United career has been that of a relatively mediocre player. The fact that he has the skillset to be a better-than-average player doesn't stop him being an average player.
He is what he is, no matter how much people want to believe in him suddenly delivering on whatever talent they think he has.
Whats your opinion on Martial?
Good for you.
Don't know man, I want to believe Martial will get chances based on how he is playing. Hopefully EtH is strong with with his selection.
I have very little confidence in Martial doing anything more than average this season but Dybala is absolutely nailed on to fail on Sanchez proportions if we sign him. Not the kind of player we should even be entertaining the idea of signing.
Should be getting the nod over Ronaldo initially cause at least he was actually arsed enough to turn up for pre-season, that's not even taking into account his promising performances.
Disagree. Would absolutely be worth a punt at the type of numbers that's been reported.
Not many strikers options on the market tbh... just sayin.
If you don't want my opinion, don't respond to my posts.
Yep realised it wasn’t worth the effort.
It's almost impossible to fail on Sanchez proportion, United lost a staggering amount of money on him after 18 months of abysmal displays.
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He's an average player who still has the capability to make the step up. Wouldn't be the first time a player eventually stepped up once they were used properly or a certain manager figuring them out. Or wouldn't be the first time a players fitness got sorted out in their mid to late 20's. He obviously has the talent, it's why people haven't fully given up on him. He has the capability to be a top player, and it's ok to dream a bit. The situation is lining up where he gets his chance, and so far, he is taking it.
This is the season.
One of the thickest Dutch accents I have ever heard and I have been there 5 times.
This is the guy who can turn Haller into gold.
AM9 is in good hands
AM9 is in good hands
a top player is consistently very good; in what world is martial consistent let alone even good consistently. He scored against MV
I still can't help but just love him as a player. Techincally he's just so smooth in possession. Would love nothing more than a massive season from him.
Very few players have flourished at Utd the last decade. Utd have let down players some of which have been very good. If Martial gets his head screwed on now, he will have a real chance under a proper manager for a change.
Probably the best possible answer he could give. Pat Martial on his back/arms around shoulders type of comments but at the same time trying to motivate him to go even further but it will be all up to Martial if he is willing to take the chances or not.
We shall see though as it is not the first time to see this kind of positivity when talking about 9AM.
The likes of ten Hag and Van Gaal are the type of managers that Martial needs. They are direct and on the players, some people struggle with it(Di Maria) and others appreciate it. It's something that Martial himself mentioned years ago when talking about Jardim, Deschamps and Van Gaal.
Of course he could fail but it will be on him and no one else.
Of course he could fail but it will be on him and no one else.
Behave; he even went out on loan and didn't perform. He doesn't have the mentality for United.
This is actually a terrible take. He is only 3 goals behind Cantona's total of 82 goals for the club and is our 16th highest scorer of all time which is a very respectable position considering he has played in one of our weakest eras. And with assists I think he is averaging something close to 1 G/A per 2 games. He hasn't reached the heights that were expected when we bought him but to say he has had a mediocre career here is ridiculous.
Perhaps not. Its undoubtedly his final chance but I'm willing to give a blank slate to many of these players under a better manager. If they can't cut it under EtH then ship them out.
Martial FC back in this bitch!
I think more people need to look at it the other way around from a young players perspective. This club has done a disservice to all of the young talent we have had since the departure of SAF. Ask yourself what kind of player could have thrived in this situation? Who has thrived in this situation? This club hasn’t had the right management and structure to to develop players with undoubted talent (martial). Not the other way around
It's not helpful comparing Martial with an elusive them.
If ETH can make him better than he was a couple of seasons back he could be a massive boost for us.
Presumably you seen that on Transfermarkt? It’s not right. Tommy Taylor is nowhere to be seen and Bobby Charlton’s goal tally is about 100 out. Bryan Robson nowhere to be seen as well.
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An inform Martial plays has better chemistry with Bruno, Rashford and Sancho. I don’t think you can say the same about Ronaldo where things need to go thru him all the time . And just for that reason, I hope Martial comes good.
It is when everyone underperformed last season. If we give up on Martial then we might as well throw away Rashford, Shaw, Bruno etc too. Martial is a supreme talent and while I still have doubts over his mentality, if EtH fancies him then why not give him the chance?
If Martial is ever to reach his potential, this is the season. Well, the most important season in his career. It's the first time he has a manager that has tactical nous and very detailed, clear instructions and isn't here to make the show about himself and dig out his own players.
If Martial doesn't succeed under a methodical manager like ETH, then he's done.
Martial isn't our 16th highest goalscorer of all time.
What he is is a striker who has been at Manchester United for seven full seasons and has managed to return a decent total goal tally as a result. But unfortunately for him his inconsistency, his often evident lack of work rate and his often seeming lack of interest also count towards the assesment of him as footballer.
All of which leaves you with a player who is (at the level we're talking about) distinctly mediocre. We're not talking about a player who would get into other top sides or would be particularly missed if he left. Rather we're talking about a player who was bombed out on loan to Sevilla mid-season in his supposed peak years to little complaint from the fanbase. That's the player he is.
The "flop" label that sometimes gets affixed to him by the newspapers is overly harsh but his Manchester United career has been distinctly average.
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