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Adisa

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Again another example of fans having the wrong idea in their head of a player we signed. We have missed him massively since he has been out.
 

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Forum is full of crybabies. He's had a good start to his United career yet the whole place keeps changing "he doesn't take on his man enough". Give him time ffs.
 

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Must admit I have a bad feeling about him succeeding at United.
But that might just be my own preference for direct wingers like Garnacho and Martinelli.

I doubt Serbia were particularly worried about Antony being on the ball, where as they seemed to shit themselves whenever Martinelli had the ball.

Antony also did his classic move with losing the ball, because he wanted to trap the ball when receiving it with his back to a defender.
Yeah, but Antony is style wise a much better fit for us than Martinelli is (style wise). Antony is extremely strong on the ball in the upper right corner of the field and when he gets it in that position, we will almost never lose possession of it.
 

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Think he had a good game, he was ignored a lot on the right by his teammates but he was tidy and made the right decisions.
 

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I thought he was pretty bad

But their whole team was bad

Was hoping he’d do a Rashford and make himself undroppable for the KOs
 

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He was shit today, but this is a fully rotated lineup that doesn't seem to want to get out of first gear. So can't really read into that performance.
 

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Compare his performance with Martinelli and you can see why Martinelli gets to stay on the pitch
 

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He was shit today, but this is a fully rotated lineup that doesn't seem to want to get out of first gear. So can't really read into that performance.
That’s no excuse. Martinelli was in the same boat and looked twice the player (at least)

No big deal though. Antony’s yong and lernin. But it was a very disappointing performance.
 

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Compare his performance with Martinelli and you can see why Martinelli gets to stay on the pitch
Missed chance after chance - I think he stayed on because it’s the last of his tournament to be honest.
 

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I actually found all of the Brazilian forwards today frustrating, including Martinelli.
 

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Only watched the first half but thought he did well. A lack of a midfield player that wanted to get on the ball and control it really hurt Brazil though.
 

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Missed chance after chance - I think he stayed on because it’s the last of his tournament to be honest.
Martinelli actually created some form on danger and looked like he could make a difference.

"he's so good" "he's shit"
the duality of man
He wasn't good by any metric. Average at best if you take into account most of his teamates who were pretty bad as well, or simply "bad" if you were expecting him to do something that could challenge Raphinha's spot (which isn't such a high bar). He didn't do such thing.
 

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Again another example of fans having the wrong idea in their head of a player we signed. We have missed him massively since he has been out.
What do you see in him? Explain please. I'm not being an arse. I'm curious cos I just don't see it
 

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I thought he was decent. Our fans are overly hard on our players quite often
 

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Missed chance after chance - I think he stayed on because it’s the last of his tournament to be honest.
I don’t think he missed one chance that you would say ‘he has to score that’. He created chances for himself and for others. Antony on the other hand had the right back on toast for the first 10 mins and then nothing after that.
 

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He seems an odd fit for this Brazil team. He often plays the simple pass which isn’t particularly in line with how Brazil play when going forward.
 

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I don’t think he missed one chance that you would say ‘he has to score that’. He created chances for himself and for others. Antony on the other hand had the right back on toast for the first 10 mins and then nothing after that.
He missed 2 sitters
 

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Martinelli actually created some form on danger and looked like he could make a difference.



He wasn't good by any metric. Average at best if you take into account most of his teamates who were pretty bad as well, or simply "bad" if you were expecting him to do something that could challenge Raphinha's spot (which isn't such a high bar). He didn't do such thing.
He looked half good until it came to doing something useful
 

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Eh? He played very well. And believe me, I will only ever praise an Arsenal player through gritted teeth.
He played really well yeah, but missed sitters. The reason he won’t play much again isn’t because of his performance tonight but because of his position being filled by Vinicius or Neymar
 

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Yeah, but Antony is style wise a much better fit for us than Martinelli is (style wise). Antony is extremely strong on the ball in the upper right corner of the field and when he gets it in that position, we will almost never lose possession of it.
Martinelli also is strong on the ball and an excellent passer. As for the comparisons between the two, I feel Antony is much more like Saka. When Saka receives the ball he will slow the game down to his own pace (which is still pretty quick), Martinelli on the hand ups the tempo. Saka likes to take his man on beginning from a slow movement/standstill position, Martinelli likes to take his man on at high pace.

So Antony is more like Saka and will slow the game down to this tempo, but he needs to make it work. Stop the unnecessary tricks and pointless showboating. If there is nothing on pass in back infield and keep moving, the ball can come back 3 seconds later in a different position on the pitch with the opposition defence in a different structure where something could be on. When Antony flicks his legs over the ball and then passes it infield, I wonder if his team interpret that as him saying thats it for me, I cant unlock the opposition defence in this phase of play. This pointless tricks also slow the game down unnecessarily. Like I said, if there is nothing on, pass it and move, some quick swift passing and off the ball and the ball can find you in a position where there is something on.
 

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He looked half good until it came to doing something useful
Martinelli had three good chances. Two of which he fashioned himself driving deep into the opposition box forcing good saves. As for his headed effort, probably should have scored, but then a tricky nimble and of slight build winger are not exactly known for his heading. The fact that its an element of his game is really pleasing to us Gooners.

On Martinelli, we believe we have a well-behaved Luis Saurez in the making.
 

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He played really well yeah, but missed sitters. The reason he won’t play much again isn’t because of his performance tonight but because of his position being filled by Vinicius or Neymar
Some of you guys have a very weird definition of what a "sitter" is. The only sitter that was missed in this game imo was Guimaraes at the end of the game.
 

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We haven’t had a single good performance since he’s been out, as he’s our 100% outball under the press, in a similar way Bernardo is for city. Without him we’ve reverted to some pretty poor direct football.
Exactly this. It’s been so noticeable how much we missed him while he was out. Yet some here still think he doesn’t do much.
 

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On Martinelli, we believe we have a well-behaved Luis Saurez in the making.
Martinelli is absolutely nothing like Suarez is or was in any style, in any profile, in any key attributes. That is such a wtf comparison. It would have been more suitable if you said Martinelli was a Ronnie O’Sullivan in the making.
 

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You wait and see. In time, I will be proven right.

Martinelli is destined to be among one of the top players in the world.
Martinelli is a good player, but not a particularly special talent. Not really similar to Suarez either. I wouldn't even be all that surprised if Garnacho developed into a better player.
 

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Weird player to analyse but my gut tells me he's a good talent but not quite good enough to be top class.

I watch him and think he looks quite ordinary at times and usually top talents are very obvious especially attacking players. On the other hand he does stuff at times that totally surprises me and makes me think he could be special. I guess I just need to keep watching more to form a proper opinion.
 
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