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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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JPRouve

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F-Red said:
Isn't that just standard food labelling for goods sold in the EU though? Not some Brexit hyperbole. Pretty sure since around the first quarter of 2020 they changed some of the food labelling requirements for goods sold in the EU where if you couldn't identify you country of origin as being inside of the EU as to put it as 'Non-EU'.
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If it was standard to mention which country the product aren't from then the packagings would be amusing. And no you do'nt mention non-EU.
 

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Krakenzero said:
So, trying to summarize:

-More than 6 years ago, the party in power was afraid of losing the election due to the relative growth of a minor "fringe" political party in Northern Ireland.

-Therefore, the PM at the time thought a good way to appease them was throwing them a bone: in this case, a Brexit referendum. The gig worked and the party held the majority and won the election.

-One year later, the Brexit referendum spinned out of control, with blatant lies and disinformation running rampant and even an MP killed during the campaign. With nobody on the breaks and on the birth of a new kind of election to which nobody was prepared for, Brexit won by a very small margin.

-Having spectacularly miscalculated the effects of his move, the strongly anti Brexit PM makes a last act of cowardice and resigns, leaving a path for the pro Brexit faction of the party to ascend to power.

-A new PM arrives, and it somehow manages to make the situation worse: her Brexit proposals get rejected 3 times and the party loses their majority in general elections, forcing them to reinforce their suicide pact with the fringe Brexit parties. In the meantime she puts in motion all the legal arrangements that make Brexit inevitable, and gets rewarded by being forced to resign in favor of the more extreme, pro Brexit side of the party.

-Finally a new openly pro Brexit PM arrives, and even though the UK is halfway through the deadline to make Brexit work, he decides to go all out on no deal, aggressively refusing to do anything similar to a somewhat organized transition process and therefore losing the good faith of his counterparts in the negotiation and the trust of the international community. Nevertheless, these actions are interpreted internally as the ones of a strong leader fighting for his country, and he wins the elections in a landslide paving the way for a chaotic no deal Brexit.

-Prior to the elections, the opposition got a window of opportunity (graciously handed by the new PM's ineptitude in trying to close the parlament) of getting together, get the ruling party out and starting to dismantle the Brexit process or at least to mitigate the most damaging parts of it. They failed miserably in the first task, the "get together" one, and therefore secured their place in history as accomplices by incompetence.

-Less than one month before the deadline and after selling for years the idea of a no deal the PM shows a surprise eleventh hour deal, with shortcomings instantly visible to anyone willing to read it. Anyway, that doesn't stop the PM from exaggerately praising the deal and calling Brexit complete (the Brexit minister position surprisingly keeps existing though).

-Approximately 6 months into Brexit, when the damage done has become pretty clear, the PM and his staff start reneging on the deal they just signed and congratulated themselves on, blaming the opposition in the process. He also threatened to break international agreements over the irish border, after failing to put protocols in place that everyone knew were neccesary 5 years ago. These issues have also halted any options of a quick deal with the US, making the problem even worse.

-10 months after Brexit the current PM has nowhere to go (except for continuing escalating the conflict with his main partners), the 2 previous ones are MIA (one wrote a book I think) and the fringe party that started it all has returned to his usual irrelevant place in UK elections. The ruling party looks comfortable though.
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Pretty good, but you forgot the part where certain news media have been stoking the anti-EU fire for decades to sell their shit.

Pretty sad state of affairs all around.
 

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F-Red said:
Isn't that just standard food labelling for goods sold in the EU though? Not some Brexit hyperbole. Pretty sure since around the first quarter of 2020 they changed some of the food labelling requirements for goods sold in the EU where if you couldn't identify you country of origin as being inside of the EU as to put it as 'Non-EU'.
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F-Red said:
Isn't that just standard food labelling for goods sold in the EU though? Not some Brexit hyperbole. Pretty sure since around the first quarter of 2020 they changed some of the food labelling requirements for goods sold in the EU where if you couldn't identify you country of origin as being inside of the EU as to put it as 'Non-EU'.
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I never ever found any product saying where is not from. No no country, Not non-NAFTA, no non-BRICS, no non-TPP and no non-EU. Always where is made. I find it crazy
 

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4bars said:
I never ever found any product saying where is not from. No no country, Not non-NAFTA, no non-BRICS, no non-TPP and no non-EU. Always where is made. I find it crazy
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It's actually next-level crazy.
 

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F-Red said:
Isn't that just standard food labelling for goods sold in the EU though? Not some Brexit hyperbole. Pretty sure since around the first quarter of 2020 they changed some of the food labelling requirements for goods sold in the EU where if you couldn't identify you country of origin as being inside of the EU as to put it as 'Non-EU'.
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What?
Of course you’re making no sense whatsoever here F, just use your brain for a moment here pal.
Do Australia have to write on every product that it was non-EU? Do the US?
How on Earth could a trading block in Europe demand or control that a Brazilian made product is labelled “non EU ingredients”? Or that Japanese Soya is labelled “non EU” :lol:
 

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Regulus Arcturus Black said:
What?
Of course you’re making no sense whatsoever here F, just use your brain for a moment here pal.
Do Australia have to write on every product that it was non-EU? Do the US?
How on Earth could a trading block in Europe demand or control that a Brazilian made product is labelled “non EU ingredients”? Or that Japanese Soya is labelled “non EU” :lol:
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Relax yourself, no one mentioned Sweden.

Specifically on the part mentioned was about declaring herbs as 'non-eu' which the CBI mentioned can be done in cases where they can declare it as 'Non EU' as the indication of origin, since April 2020. https://www.cbi.eu/market-information/spices-herbs/what-requirements-should-your-product-comply

That would make sense that the supplier that Morrisons is using, is probably shipping to the EU as well, and has some variant of labelling which covers all markets (UK and EU) and has generic packaging. Morrisons decides to use that, at a time when food supply is at its most difficult, and the powers of twitter deduce that it's a pro UK/Brexit stance by the supermarket rather than a labelled product which is sold into multiple markets. Nothing more to it.
 

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Dumbstar said:
If Labour win the next election (which is likely now right, whomever the leader is?) could they undo Brexit and rejoin the EU without needing to ask us plebs?

In fact, with all the hurt our xenophobic manufacturers, workers, farmers, fishermen are going to face in the next couple of years, would it be the perfect election winning manifesto?
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Labour are not likely to win the next election.
 

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It harks back to a time when people were real people. A REAL Britain where kids did what they were told and respected their elders, and didn't sit in their rooms all day on their video games machines playing FIFA 98.

That's what a bunch of old cnuts on their smartphones posting shit on the internet say, anyway. Probably double vaxxed with access to clean water and a constant electricity supply as well. And a lack of planes flying overhead trying to bomb their homes. I've forgotten what their point was now.
 

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Tory vision for the country going into 2022

more investment into London companies, hopefully ones they have ties too

northern men digging coal in the pits again

small trade deals with every little country outside of Europe hopefully making a scratch on the deficit

courts answering to the government with legislation rewritten so that government can overrule whatever they want
 

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golden_blunder said:
Tory vision for the country going into 2022

more investment into London companies, hopefully ones they have ties too

northern men digging coal in the pits again

small trade deals with every little country outside of Europe hopefully making a scratch on the deficit

courts answering to the government with legislation rewritten so that government can overrule whatever they want
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And potentially re-starting the conflict in Ireland...

Brexit: John Major says triggering Article 16 would be 'absurd'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59190547
 

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Wonder if that mantra of 'it's worth it whatever the cost' will still ring true three to five years in when the tangible benefits remain as elusive as they are now.

Most think it’s too soon to tell on Brexit
A survey conducted by YouGov for The Times found that 46 per cent of people believe it is too soon to tell whether Brexit has been a success or a failure. Of those who had made up their minds, 11 per cent said they believed it had been a success and 37 per cent a failure.

This was despite two-thirds of those surveyed saying they thought that Brexit had led to higher prices in shops and a narrower availability of goods on shelves.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/most-think-its-too-soon-to-tell-on-brexit-k7gmkcvr2
 

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Jippy said:
Wonder if that mantra of 'it's worth it whatever the cost' will still ring true three to five years in when the tangible benefits remain as elusive as they are now.

Most think it’s too soon to tell on Brexit

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/most-think-its-too-soon-to-tell-on-brexit-k7gmkcvr2
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The key question missed on that is, "How long until you think you could judge if it's been a success or failure?" and then you'll start getting some really interesting answers!

To be fair the answer was given when the Office for Budgetary Responsibility projected the economic impact to be twice that of the pandemic!
 

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FireballXL5 said:
I still want a Brexiteer to explain to me how this fecking shambles is still worth continuing with.
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Sadly there's probably no way back at the moment, especially with this government in power. After all the economic cost, lies and disruption, why would they let the UK back in at the moment?
 

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Drifter said:
Brexit: Irish minister says UK 'preparing' to suspend parts of NI deal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59198125
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Biden is going to be a big issue for them on that. Boris and co will be hoping Trump gets back in 2024 because you just know Trump will be happy turn a blind eye to the GFA the US is guarantor to so long as him and his backers can rape and pillage what’s left of the UK economy and NHS.
 

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Pexbo said:
Biden is going to be a big issue for them on that. Boris and co will be hoping Trump gets back in 2024 because you just know Trump will be happy turn a blind eye to the GFA the US is guarantor to so long as him and his backers can rape and pillage what’s left of the UK economy and NHS.
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Aren’t their certain Republicans and donors on the right with Irish backgrounds who would be against anything that breaches the peace in Ireland?
 

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Theresa May for all her faults was at least someone who took the job seriously. It will be a source of fascination to historians how we ended up with the current charlatan/weirdo as PM. We know the ostensible answer (he offered an easy, albeit fraudelent, solution to a hideously complex question) but how did a mature democracy end up falling for that?
 

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MoskvaRed said:
Theresa May for all her faults was at least someone who took the job seriously. It will be a source of fascination to historians how we ended up with the current charlatan/weirdo as PM. We know the ostensible answer (he offered an easy, albeit fraudelent, solution to a hideously complex question) but how did a mature democracy end up falling for that?
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Social media.
 

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Klopper76 said:
Aren’t their certain Republicans and donors on the right with Irish backgrounds who would be against anything that breaches the peace in Ireland?
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Yep, Irish Americans are powerful on both sides. It’s a bi-partisan issue
 
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