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Probably doomed to fail but still the right option to push for it
Damned if you do damned if you don't and at least it keeps the pressure on and the naritive that she's screwed
Presumably that's the follow up motion when this one fails
Government don't have to schedule time for this one, they do have to for an actual confidence vote.
Yes but if they don't schedule time surely they have to follow up with an actual confidence vote... Especially based on the tweet from the whips which say not to debate is to admit she's lost the confidence of the house...
Clearly it's a trap as lots of the erg would vote against her but almost certainly not against the government... And it's such an obvious trip there is no way they allow the vote and walk into it.
As such labour really have to call a confidence vote or look like a pointless opposition
Classy bunch.
So unless I'm reading it wrongly, the motion won't actually unseat the government but just allows Labour to pretend they're being proactive?
That's what it sounds like to me, the mouse poking its nose out and then scampering back down the hole.
I think it's a prelude to a full confidence motion
It gives the cover that they tried other options and are not playing party politics
They know the government probably won't make time for the debate
But she had to bring the agreement back before the 21st anyway which she is doing just beforehand and then when she gave a date he brings the motion later which is meaningless. Pfff.
May can't believe her luck she has Corbyn on the other side of the Commons.
What's happening?
Corbyn tabled a Vote of No Confidence. However, this isn’t the VoNC we were hoping for. That would be a VoNC in the government, this is a VoNC in the PM herself, and is thus non-binding and does not lead to any direct consequences.
However, the past precedence has been that a PM resigns if they lose a VoNC in themselves. As for when this would take place, well, the Government could simply not allow it to take place at all, which would look terrible, but losing it would look even more terrible, so who really knows?
Corbyn has put forward a vote of no confidence in May. Crucially, it's in May not the government so doesn't trigger the 14 day clock set out in the Fixed Terms Parliment Act, meaning May can lose with zero actual consequences other than embarrassment. Reckon if the vote goes ahead then they will probably just abstain to prevent it from even having any symbolism.
BREAKINGSpeaker grants emergency debate on EU Council
Emergency Debate request
House of Commons
Parliament
HoCCopyright: HoC
Speaker John Bercow says that he is satisfied that this is enough for an emergency debate.
He says he will advise MPs later, towards the end of the day in the Commons, for how long the debate should take and when it will take place.
He says there is "good reason" why he can't provide the time and length immediately, as he normally would.
Emergency Debate request
House of Commons
Parliament
HoCCopyright: HoC
Speaker John Bercow says that he is satisfied that this is enough for an emergency debate.
He says he will advise MPs later, towards the end of the day in the Commons, for how long the debate should take and when it will take place.
He says there is "good reason" why he can't provide the time and length immediately, as he normally would.
Interesting to see what the EU will do when Brits start coming to the continent to ask for political asylum. Can happen any time soon. 
I'm thinking of opening up a dinghy shop on the South coastInteresting to see what the EU will do when Brits start coming to the continent to ask for political asylum. Can happen any time soon.
Think he should change no.5 to 'Demand to be re-imprisoned' after being freed.
Good.BREAKINGSpeaker grants emergency debate on EU Council
Emergency Debate request
House of Commons
Parliament
HoCCopyright: HoC
Speaker John Bercow says that he is satisfied that this is enough for an emergency debate.
He says he will advise MPs later, towards the end of the day in the Commons, for how long the debate should take and when it will take place.
He says there is "good reason" why he can't provide the time and length immediately, as he normally would.
It's the only thing that the DUP might vote for. There is no point having a vote of no confidence in the government if the vote won't pass May would use it as confirmation that parliament backs her government.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-in-few-key-sectors-in-case-of-no-deal-brexit
Wednesday should be interesting.
Wednesday should be interesting.
How so? They gonna vote multiple times are they?
Corbyn tables no confidence vote
Arguments for JC tabling no confidence motion in May rather than the Government (taken from Twitter)
- It’ll show how much support May has in Parliament. Forces the DUP to show their hand. Delegitimises the government further.
- Also, it'll expose the 117 Tory MPs who voted no confidence last week if they vote with her that they're putting party before country. Basically the hypocrisy of the Tory party.
- By tabling a no confidence vote specifically aimed at the PM, Corbyn has played a blinder. This effectively allows #Labour to see how the numbers actually stack up while keeping the trump card of a formal vote of no confidence in reserve.
- While there is not legal weight behind the vote it would remove the last shreds of authority she has after the vote of contempt and the internal confidence vote. Her position would be untenable.
Corbyn playing 4D Chess, the cheeky fecker.
Putting in the vote after she revealed the date. What a bastard.
Is it ooohhh Jeremy Corbyn time?
May needs to focus on no Brexit, there is no other bluff.
What does this even mean? If the government decide to take it to a vote and win, the headlines will be "May wins Commons confidence vote." It's not a risk-free means of "testing numbers". So you need to actually win it, and winning it carries no actual weight.
No brexit? Or no No deal brexit? Very different things...
Not that it matters in the great scheme of things but May winning would itself lead to some awkward questions - such as why 117 Tory MP's thought she was incapable of leading their party but perfectly capable of running the country.
Especially after JRM went around talking about how she had to resign after the vote.
Fear not, it will be another anonymous vote so nobody will actually have to explain their convictions.
why would it be anonymous it's not a internal party vote
Unless they called for her to resign after it as well (i.e. 19th Century Man), it's pretty easy to handwave it away as "we are a democratic party and the party decided".
They have a better chance of winning this as the DUP have said that they will vote for no confidence in the PM but that they won't back a vote of no confidence in the government.
is this the first tangible thing that Corbyn has actually done regarding Brexit?
The argument is that it would expose the hypocrisy of the Conservative party but what long term impact that would have is rather debatable