Club Sale | It’s done!
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Well Im closing my flight tracker tab now.
The Glazers might not be good people but they are not a State regime with multiple human rights violations (as the Qatar take-over is very clearly a State-backed acquisition with Jassim as the face of it). That is my line in the sand.
Do I have the power to stop rooting for the team or having feelings for the club? It's not black or white, even when you are in love with someone and they become a cnut and you leave them, you still have lingering feelings, maybe forever. That doesn't mean you don't fall out of love. The tribalism around this is something I don't quite understand, one of the reasons I love Utd is the romance of it, the history, and it will (in my mind) be tainted by this.
There's a lot of bargaining, what aboutism and coping going on in this thread for people that can't imagine stopping following the team, I'm fine with that, to each their own, but it's equally understandable that a Qatar backed take over would be the breaking point for a lot of us.
One of the difficulties with this is that the Protaris have been insistent (they have not given one inch) that this is a private bid and Jassim is actively involved (we found out at the end of last week that he has no / minimal involvement).
If it was a private bid SJR is substantially wealthier. Of course it isnt.
The entire take over summed up in one tweet
You could say twitter is a problem, but really it's gullible people desperate to believe fake news
Aren’t INEOS some global chemical company.
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Christ they must be thick if they're getting duped by a bloke in Cardiff.
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SJR back in it.. 
We'll see what happens at 9:30 opening
I did not insult anyone but if the cap fits, by all means put it on. The OP's logic is completely sound, right or wrong (and he's quite likely right.)
No, they are a company that manufacture rainbows and unicorns.
What is your point? How does it change anything I said?
I was referring to the fact that some people believe it’s a private bid
The exact response any party would make no matter the outcome, that means as much as the tweets half of the people are taking the piss out of.
Again, nobody is saying he isn't a serious bidder - I am sure he is keen to buy the club but his wealth pales in comparison to the Qatari's. They could pay £10BN if they wanted to, SJR is at the very limit of his resources.
Hence why the Glazers are keen to position SJRs bid as very strong, likely stronger than it is. They want the Qatari's to panic and overspend. They know SJRs offer is his very best, they know the Qatari's can dig deeper.
The Qatari's have not done this, hence why we're still here going round and round in June.
Reset the clock. Big news day tomorrow etc..
You alright?I'm in the same boat. An acquisition by Qatar (as would any other nation-state) will change the meaning of the club for me, and a big part of the romance will be gone. That's why it's not even exactly some sort of challenge if I can stop following the club or not, I just will naturally. I'm really sad about the prospect, but it is a bit like realizing that you have to end a relationship because something significant about your partner has changed.
this whole thing is a fiasco and this thread is the worst of it.
This is standard auction game theory. It's literally what Raine Group does for a living. What were people expecting?
Athletic have been shit with this and this is a great example. It was only shared because so many..so called..trusted Qatari sources were tweeting it.
They haven’t broken a story about this at all yet they suddenly have Qatar sources they don’t use?
Might as well remove this rule now.
I hope you've all learned a valuable lesson about the markets today.
That's how I see it too. It's not about bravado on here, of course I'm not gonna stop watching the games from one day to another, but I just know that if/when it happens, something in my relationship with the club I've loved since I was 10 will change. It's ok, my love for football in general is dying with every passing year anyway, but I don't quite understand why people are being so bullish towards those who genuinely have these feelings.
Yes I've invested all my money in bitcoin, there was a Qatari tweet that said it was a good idea.
So did Sir Jim Ratcliffe when he signed Aaron Ramsey
Will admit I got suckered in by the stuff,however take some heart from the fact that UK media are least talking about Jassim bid when it was all Ratcliffe til Friday
Its quite fun to see all the Pro INEOS/SJR posters come out of the woodwork, they must have been bricking it last night when all this kicked off. Sad it turned out to be fake news, guess we are back in the whole 50/50 element with SJR being back in the lead by default. It was fun whilst it lasted
I'm actually wondering if you're talking about the same post here, because to say 'OP's logic is completely sound' would be pretty mental if you're talking about the same post claiming that SJR can't afford to buy the club. This is the same guy that owns a business turning over billions in profit, along with all the subsidiary companies too. And, for what it's worth, his personal net worth is supposedly far greater than that of Jassim. So let's just agree that it is very badly wrong to say he can't afford the club and leave it at that.
Feck me, this whole process is embarrassing
It’s going to absolute madness when the announcement get announced. The real one that is.
Fully respect that line.
Personally, don't have the time and will to commit myself to question that line.
I have zero knowledge about the Qataris and the human rights violations, nor do i wish to inspect it thoroughly.
You could label it whataboutism, or sticking ones head in the sand, but i simply choose to live without that knowledge.
Redcafe is probably the biggest online place that opens my views on different topics.
Whenever i'm in doubt about something i choose the CAF as a reference point.
There is a huge amount of knowledgable posters about vastly different topics, and i feel the quality of serious posts is remarkable.
I never really related the romance behind the club with the owners.
I don't know who the owners were at the time of the Munich disaster. I didn't know who the owners were in the 90's when i started rooting for the club....
Didn't know about the owners right about the time when the Glazers took over.
I don't even know anything about the Glazers, outside of the knowledgable posts about their wrongdoings while at the helm of the club in the last decade.
Even now, i have zero knowledge about Sir Jim or Jassim.
Couldn't care less.
They might buy the club and call themselves "owners", but i certainly won't associate the club with them.
Manchester United is way beyond that.
That's my line in the sand.
"Glazers accept investment from Carlyle group".
At least we'll all be on the same page, for once.
That was a magical 12 hours though
We used data science but didn't have any dedicated data scientists to do it
I'm picturing a 16 year old with GCSE maths on work experience for the summer.]
Surely you’re against brexit Jim taking over as well? Think of the poor unicorns
Wowsers.
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