Same. She's now my ex wife.2013 - met the girl of my dreams, who is now my wife.
Same. She's now my ex wife.2013 - met the girl of my dreams, who is now my wife.
Why did I read this like you and the original poster were talking about the same woman?Same. She's now my ex wife.
Wtf is this? Please, no.2013 - met the girl of my dreams, who is now my wife.
More like it. More befitting for this thread.Same. She's now my ex wife.
It's interesting to look at everything from the perspective of Avram & Joel (which isn't particularly difficult - as you can see from this interview, Avram for instance is not exactly an IQ monster).Usually you would think the people with numbers in their favour namely other Glazers and shareholders would prevail over the leeching duo,however it doesn't feel that's the case in this scenario. Those two are powerful unfortunately
Agree with most of this - but they still have one major problem. Utd needs massive investment off the pitch, and the Glazer’s are not known for spending their own money. Increased TV revenue and Sponsorship is not going to cover the spend that is needed, and the club cannot take a loan of the magnitude required onto the books. They are still staring into a black hole, without further funding, unless they intend the club to rot.It's interesting to look at everything from the perspective of Avram & Joel (which isn't particularly difficult - as you can see from this interview, Avram for instance is not exactly an IQ monster).
Back last November when the potential sale was first announced, there were a few key circumstances that are no longer the case today:
Since then, Ten Hag has obviously overseen a significant upswing in the team's performances, Manchester City & Everton have been charged by the Premier League for FFP breaches, whilst it's now being reported that the Premier League is due for another significant upswing in its television revenue later this year.
- Manchester United were out of the Champions League spots in the Premier League, having already failed to qualify for the Champions League the previous season
- Owner-backed Premier League clubs such as Manchester City & Newcastle United appeared relatively unimpeded by Premier League FFP rules
- There was a widespread feeling amongst financial circles that the Premier League's television income may have peaked
Therefore, whilst last November Joel & Avram may well have determined that the value of Manchester United was likely to depreciate due to declining revenues & increased competition - meaning it was a good time for them to jump ship - they now probably conclude the opposite.
The huge irony in this is of course is that if Manchester United's sporting performance drops again next season, that could be a very persuasive factor towards Avram & Joel deciding to sell up after all.
These are some cogent points which are going amiss in all the battle. Fair play.It's interesting to look at everything from the perspective of Avram & Joel (which isn't particularly difficult - as you can see from this interview, Avram for instance is not exactly an IQ monster).
Back last November when the potential sale was first announced, there were a few key circumstances that are no longer the case today:
Since then, Ten Hag has obviously overseen a significant upswing in the team's performances, Manchester City & Everton have been charged by the Premier League for FFP breaches, whilst it's now being reported that the Premier League is due for another significant upswing in its television revenue later this year.
- Manchester United were out of the Champions League spots in the Premier League, having already failed to qualify for the Champions League the previous season
- Owner-backed Premier League clubs such as Manchester City & Newcastle United appeared relatively unimpeded by Premier League FFP rules
- There was a widespread feeling amongst financial circles that the Premier League's television income may have peaked
Therefore, whilst last November Joel & Avram may well have determined that the value of Manchester United was likely to depreciate due to declining revenues & increased competition - meaning it was a good time for them to jump ship - they now probably conclude the opposite.
The huge irony in this is of course is that if Manchester United's sporting performance drops again next season, that could be a very persuasive factor towards Avram & Joel deciding to sell up after all.
Managing their debt is their only outside challenge.Agree with most of this - but they still have one major problem. Utd needs massive investment off the pitch, and the Glazer’s are not known for spending their own money. Increased TV revenue and Sponsorship is not going to cover the spend that is needed, and the club cannot take a loan of the magnitude required onto the books. They are still staring into a black hole, without further funding, unless they intend the club to rot.
That just demonstrated how poor their decision making is. It is short term structured and it is that way of thinking that has created such a mess. United were in a decent position just before the World Cup to qualify for the Champions League .Liverpool were poor and in dire need of a central midfield, I did not expect them to co e back into top 4 reckoning. Chelsea were even worse and everyone bar Brighton fans were making excuses for Potter to remain as coach. Then Newcaslte were there and everyone thought they would fall off, but they did not.It's interesting to look at everything from the perspective of Avram & Joel (which isn't particularly difficult - as you can see from this interview, Avram for instance is not exactly an IQ monster).
Back last November when the potential sale was first announced, there were a few key circumstances that are no longer the case today:
Since then, Ten Hag has obviously overseen a significant upswing in the team's performances, Manchester City & Everton have been charged by the Premier League for FFP breaches, whilst it's now being reported that the Premier League is due for another significant upswing in its television revenue later this year.
- Manchester United were out of the Champions League spots in the Premier League, having already failed to qualify for the Champions League the previous season
- Owner-backed Premier League clubs such as Manchester City & Newcastle United appeared relatively unimpeded by Premier League FFP rules
- There was a widespread feeling amongst financial circles that the Premier League's television income may have peaked
Therefore, whilst last November Joel & Avram may well have determined that the value of Manchester United was likely to depreciate due to declining revenues & increased competition - meaning it was a good time for them to jump ship - they now probably conclude the opposite.
The huge irony in this is of course is that if Manchester United's sporting performance drops again next season, that could be a very persuasive factor towards Avram & Joel deciding to sell up after all.
Yeah leeching fecker has played us like a fiddleStill 798(!) pages behind the Donald Trump thread.
I don't think we'll get there to be honest. This is feeling more and more like the Glazers were only trying to raise some cash rather than necessarily outright getting rid of the club.
My guess is that the process will end with them selling off a chunk of shares to some US investment banks, and then this thread getting locked after another couple of hundred pages.
He looks like a shrivelled up bollock, Jesus.fecking state of this cnut… GET OUT you dozy prick!
I joined 7 years ago, and i'm not even worthy enough of a tagline2014 the year I joined Redcafe... 9 long years.
Be careful what you wish for...I joined 7 years ago, and i'm not even worthy enough of a tagline
‘not even worthy enough of a tagline’ should be your tagline.I joined 7 years ago, and i'm not even worthy enough of a tagline
Very harsh on the shrivelled up bollock community.He looks like a shrivelled up bollock, Jesus.
Speak for yourself matey!Very harsh on the shrivelled up bollock community.
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That's actually a good idea. Someone start a 24/25 season future prediction thread. E.G. Luke Shaw to stub his toe in warm up against Newcastle in September, becoming injured, and remaining so until August 2026.Only 8 more pages to go and the page count goes beyond the year this thread was started and we start predicting future events.
I'm expecting something akin to the Y2K meltdown.
Interesting thanks for sharingSome noise today in the media.
What noise exactly?Some noise today in the media.
Is it white noise?Some noise today in the media.
Well tell them to be quiet.Some noise today in the media.
That comes right from the heart of the sales process. Though the name Moi Raine is a bit on the nose.Some noise today in the media.
I'll be more concerned about who they're selling to.'Fans are worried the Glazers won't sell'
Never one to shy away from the gritty details and very specific news…Some noise today in the media.
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Agreed, that’s why I think Avram & Joel have a strong preference for Ratcliffe’s deal which will bring in the investment you mention, whilst also enabling them to keep their shares. Hence a current impasse with the other Glazers and minority shareholders, who likely prefer Jassim’s bid.Agree with most of this - but they still have one major problem. Utd needs massive investment off the pitch, and the Glazer’s are not known for spending their own money. Increased TV revenue and Sponsorship is not going to cover the spend that is needed, and the club cannot take a loan of the magnitude required onto the books. They are still staring into a black hole, without further funding, unless they intend the club to rot.
That was the Glazers' failed plan earlier last year before resorting to this current process. There’s also been no indication during this process that minority bids have been favoured above the two majority bids – quite the opposite in fact.Still 798(!) pages behind the Donald Trump thread.
I don't think we'll get there to be honest. This is feeling more and more like the Glazers were only trying to raise some cash rather than necessarily outright getting rid of the club.
My guess is that the process will end with them selling off a chunk of shares to some US investment banks, and then this thread getting locked after another couple of hundred pages.
Well, there is.It is the ever increasing debt burden on the club which will probably persuade them to finally sell, there is no real long-term alternative.
When that actually happens is anyone's guessIt is the ever increasing debt burden on the club which will probably persuade them to finally sell, there is no real long-term alternative.
INEOS haven’t said they will move the debt burden to themselves. They said the new debt used to buy the club will be leveraged on INEOS not MUFC. Massive difference.Well, there is.
Ineos will move the debt onto themselves and manage it through their assets. The gruesome twosome can stay on board and milk the gravy train, so.
They don't want to miss out on future wealth.
That's exactly how Nazi Germany started after Skynet became self-aware and invented time travel.Only 8 more pages to go and the page count goes beyond the year this thread was started and we start predicting future events.
Me neither. Earlier calls of "close thread" were rightly met with derision but now it's squeaky bum time.That's exactly how Nazi Germany started after Skynet became self-aware and invented time travel.
How many of these so-called "members" are actually AI bots?
Personally, I wouldn't risk it. Close the thread.
Yeah nothing is happeningMe neither. Earlier calls of "close thread" were rightly met with derision but now it's squeaky bum time.