He's a piece of shite, do not want.
He's also a bit of a Phil Jones.
He's also a bit of a Phil Jones.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's a united fan. I'd be happy to have him as a squad player and backup DM. Or a starter for a season.
For the money it would cost it's not worth the hassle
He's only 23 and may be able to really step up given a bigger platform. Always good to have British talent too. I'd love to have him in the squad.
Yes please. The closest English player to Carrick currently. Where's the link for him though?
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He plays internationally and in the champions league with Spurs who have challenged for the league the past couple of seasons. Where are we currently going to offer him a bigger platform? Do you mean wage and club?
Do not want
Prefer Wanyama
Nope
Winks is far more like a young Carrick to me. With more natural acceleration and dribbling ability.
Mentioned in the past that Dier should be considered.
There are certainly parallels there with Carrick.
Look how much Carrick's game has improved since joining United, those first couple of seasons were really tricky for him. Given Dier's age, I'd be wary of how long it might be before you see the best of him too.
He has the potential to be a brilliant central defensive midfielder, but he needs moulding, tutoring and most importantly time.
With that in mind and given that signing him would meaning doing business with Levy, you'd expect United to lineup other targets.
Though he'd be my preference for Carrick's replacement.
There are certainly parallels there with Carrick.
Look how much Carrick's game has improved since joining United, those first couple of seasons were really tricky for him. Given Dier's age, I'd be wary of how long it might be before you see the best of him too.
He has the potential to be a brilliant central defensive midfielder, but he needs moulding, tutoring and most importantly time.
With that in mind and given that signing him would meaning doing business with Levy, you'd expect United to lineup other targets.
Though he'd be my preference for Carrick's replacement.
Is he in the process of negotiating a new contract? Anyway, we can do much better.
He's the player I'd most want us to sign from Spurs. I'm still not convinced about Kane. Stupid as it sounds but he still doesn't look like a natural goal scorer and I'm not sure in 5 years time he'll still be getting 25 a season or if we'll look back at him as the modern-day Kevin Phillips. But Dier looks the real deal and my pick for Carrick's replacement. Different type of player but someone who can control the game nonetheless.
I really don't see what he actually is. He's not really a DM and he's not really a CB. He's somewhere in the middle. I also think he wouldn't want to leave, no thanks.
Would prefer Gueye or Romeu, but I'm not totally opposed to Dier - think he's getting a big disservice from the reactions in this thread.
I think Dier could be useful for United a midfield of Dier, Herrera and Pogba might just be the ticket to make you challengers again.
I know what you mean about Levy and would Dier want to come to United is another question too.
One player that did make the switch from Spurs all be it a generation ago did quite well, Teddy Sheringham.
I know what you mean about Levy and would Dier want to come to United is another question too.
One player that did make the switch from Spurs all be it a generation ago did quite well, Teddy Sheringham.
Never going to happen, paper waffle
Would rather of kept Schneiderlin to be honest, and that is saying something. Dier is hugely overrated, Wanyama makes him look much better then he is.
He is a DM who can also play in central defence and right back.
Carrick?
Dier has to physical, technical attribute to play the holding defensive role, but his positional & behavioral discipline on the pitch is questionable. You can say he would mature with time, but there may be the case if he's to tone down too much he lost his edge in his aggressive, combative play.
Really weird this rumor came out of no where at this time. @balaks do you know anything about his current contract? How many years left?
Do not want.
2 words. Daniel Levy
There is absolutely no truth in this rumour and it's just the usual paper talk on the build up to the transfer window opening. No doubt over the coming months Alli, Dier, Kane, Toby, everybody in Spurs team basically will be linked to so called 'bigger teams'. It's standard fare and sadly is something I'm well used to as a Spurs fan. The fact though when you look at it is this - when was the last time Spurs sold a player to a rival team in the Premiership? Many years ago now, it just doesnt happen anymore. We deal with the likes of Real Madrid but we do not deal with Premiership teams anymore.
Whether he plays in the defence or midfield for Spurs, he always looks the most limited player out of those surrounding him.
He's not being carried, as such, he's just made to look better than he is by association of being in a good, well-organised team. He's got great players behind him (Alderwereild, Vertonghen, Lloris) and ahead of him (Wanyama, Dembele). Like, he is not a weak link but he is the weakest link if that makes more sense.
Btw, this is the exact same criticism I've had of Bakayoko many, many times. That in a midfield of Silva, Lemar, Fabinho he's made to look better than he is. That he is a "filler" player, but not a stand-out performer and he is being judged to be above his actual level.
He's not being carried, as such, he's just made to look better than he is by association of being in a good, well-organised team. He's got great players behind him (Alderwereild, Vertonghen, Lloris) and ahead of him (Wanyama, Dembele). Like, he is not a weak link but he is the weakest link if that makes more sense.
Btw, this is the exact same criticism I've had of Bakayoko many, many times. That in a midfield of Silva, Lemar, Fabinho he's made to look better than he is. That he is a "filler" player, but not a stand-out performer and he is being judged to be above his actual level.
He was one of our very best and most important players last season without Wanyama to be fair. He has moved back into defence which is not his primary position this season but he has still done well, just not as good as last season when he was played in what is his best position. His versatility makes him one of our most valuable players to have in the squad.
I would think if Pochettino stays and I think he will you would keep your squad intact and look to strengthen.
A question on this though will Poch be given money to invest in the squad?
A question on this though will Poch be given money to invest in the squad?
Now I want him just because of this comment.
He's good and would be good for us at the base of midfield, you could see Mourinho being a fan as he's big and strong as well as able to play a bit but you can't see it happening, I don't think Spurs will sell.
I rate him and think he can become a very good midfielder. Technically I think he's sound and has a good range of passing and composure with the ball. He has the physique too which is a bonus.
If everyone is fit he doesn't even staqrt for Spurs unless they use a back 3, he's a Jack of alltrades typeof player, not the proper holding midfielder we need.
Now I want him just because of this comment.
:P it's true though!
No thanks.
I think he is a starter in this line-up, which is their fave when all players fit.
-------------Kane------------
----Dele----------Eriksen---
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---Dembele---Wanyama----
------------Dier--------------
-Rose---------------Walker--
--Vertonghen--Aldewreild--
-----------Lloris--------------
EDIT: If you look at that 11, you can see how Spurs are that far up the table. It's a strong starting XI. But when I compare it to any other team, it's basically Dier that I see less favourably compared to the opposition players.
Spurs have been hit hard by Brexit.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...has-risen-to-800m-due-to-brexit-a3484516.html
I can easily see costs going through the £1billion mark if they carry on. I suspect some of the development will be put on hold as Brexit collapses London commercial property.
Selling their best players is highly likely.
They may even have to sell part of the club to raise funds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...essure-prove-funding-place-new-spurs-stadium/
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I think Pochettino favours the 4-2-3-1 when everyone is fit, with either Son or Lamela in one of the wider roles and Dele in behind Kane, with Dier missing out for Wanyama, but the Spurs lad will be able to confirm that one way or the other. I look at that 11 and I can see why it's doing well in the PL but also why it's struggled in both European competitions.
Well he's only played as DM for one full season and since Wanyama took his spot, he's back in the back 3. There is no doubt he is talented and I think he does well there (in the DM position), just he's not natural and lacks some attributes to be a top class DM.
Modric & Bale, yes. Though that was an exception not the rule.
The others? Up for debate. At some point Kane, Alli, Eriksen & Toby will be open to transfers elsewhere.
I don't think all will be headed towards Madrid, Barca & Bayern.
I believe Pochettino now favours playing 3 at the back (with Dier on the right side of the back 3), not least because this system suits Walker and Rose perfectly as wingbacks.
Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious. Spurs are a far better team than ourselves at present and were also last year.
He'd improve the team significantly and would provide a good partner for Pogba. £40m is a bargain for him in my view.
He'd improve the team significantly and would provide a good partner for Pogba. £40m is a bargain for him in my view.
Lol .... we've just posted record revenues for 2016 (up by 7% from 2015), with yet another annual profit (profit for the year after interest and tax was £33.0m, compared to £9.4m for 2015).
I'm afraid you're indulging in wishful thinking. Levy's email to City Hall is just him putting the squeeze on the local authority.
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