Ten Hag is a fantastic coach but he isn't a miracle worker. Sometimes it's easier to just call a spade a spare, Mctominay is crap, its not direction he's missing, it's talent!
Lukaku-Firminho were brought up as hypothetical points on a scale that goes from less technical to most technical. less compatible to more compatible. We probably agree that players have different degrees of technical talent with their first touch so it shouldn't be too far to believe that players will also have different degrees of compatibility for a style of football completely dependent on their touch. Controlling the ball in stride is hard, having them make inch perfect passes with their first touch is difficult, doing it under pressure in a match is talent.
He might be wanting rid of Ronaldo.
It's not about how good they are...
I doubt it. Hes a practical manager and we have a lack of goals in the squad. Maybe if we signed Nunez but now? No
Quite amazing, right? I have gotten used to it though.
His team's play his style of football with every lineup he's had. He's never compromised.
Doesn't negate what I said, he doesn't play one way or with one type of forward.
I've been a big critic of McTominay over the last couple of years, but one thing I will give him is I expect he'll try extremely hard to do what the new manager expects of him. It's why I think there's a fair chance that he'll actually look quite good for the first month or two under ETH. The issue is that he's had a couple of those periods in the past where he looks like he's turned the corner and started to really improve the aspects that he struggles with, but he just can't maintain it. We saw it for the first month when Rangnick took over for instance, before he completely fell away again. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we see a similar thing happen again.
I don't understand why anyone would take offence at the above so no need to for the disclaimer - I agree on the first part but it's kind of irrelevant to my point re taking a random PL 11v11 and having one coached by a very technical manager for 2 years. Football isn't unique, it is a skill and any skill can improve/degrade over time depending many factors. The biggest single factor if you take a random elite footballer in my opinion will be having a coach who can essentially make the really dull technical drills bearable and actually plans player progression & challenges them i.e. not just the caving to pressure/not knowing any different Steve Bruce at Newcastle 'lads, 11v11 today'.
Weird indeed, not like the team has been letting down the fans for 9 straight years and serving shit regularly on the pitch. How dare the fans don't like these players ?
If you’re constantly on a downer nothing will improve and you’ll constantly be looking for the negatives instead of focusing on the positive aspects.
This is what delusion looks like.
Garner looks jacked.
He kinda does play one way though.
He doesn’t. He can play with a false 9, he can play with a no9. He can play an aggresive highline and he can play with a less agressive line and a holding midfielder. The underlying philisophy is the same but he adapts his system to the players available and that what makes him special.
Enlighten us with the positive aspects in these last 10 years.
Yes but that's just changing small things, those players still need to be able to play his football and fit it.
Is @UnitedSofa the one we have been hiding behind for most of our games over the last few years.
We won 2 trophies under Mou were you not happy about that?
Yes of course. Ronaldo can do that better than Haller
3 minor trophies in 10 whole years, great achievement for a team of Man United caliber.
Perhaps, perhaps there are locker room problems from Ronaldo.
Maybe, or perhaps there are locker room issues from someone else
Or both.
Yes because I like to be optimistic. Looking back on it, yes, there were plenty of good things about Ole’s reign but there was also lots to be upset about.
Delusion and optimism is not the same thing.
Correct, but it won’t be at United I’m afraid.
There was nothing good about his reign. But I salute the optimism nonetheless.
Right, and if he loved coaching them that much im sure he could have just stayed at Ajax. The likes of Antony and Martinez being the big upgrades we are desperate for is questionable at best.
That's litterally what they are mate we just took their manager and are targetting three of their players and their former immense talent as we speak. I would have taken all the players they've sent to Germany this summer for United. And we'll be back in their shop next year trying to not get beat to a signing.
2nd place and several semi final finishes is nothing to be scoffed at (not good enough to only get to the final on one occasion but still a good run)
Yes it is, considering he spent hundreds of millions to improve on the guy before, who finished 2nd with better points and won sone cups.
This is true. just ask Chelsea
