I wonder if Ineos first would wait for Wilcox's audit(I think it was reported it'll take a month) OR sack ETH after the final ?
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Just send the 3 back and ask for the slate to be wiped clean. Clear up some FFP.
All these top clubs going after him as predicted 
Dithering.
Well, it was either now or after the final, with the little match-break we have now being the last opportunity. Probably fair enough to give him the final as his last game.
The 1.97 is 1.3 according to that (excludes pens). Last 12 games.So, 1.97 for vs 1.90 against? Jesus Christ
I definitely wanted him as I thought he had what it takes to get us back to the top. It's not really arguable that it he was the best, either. He was.
The problem is, that bar is really low and his utterly cnutish behaviour and dour football ruin any fond memories of his spell. I don't class Ole as being remotely successful, but I definitely have fonder memories of his spell.
Reuctant to walk away from a pay-off more like.
We love and audit, an assessment and good dossier at United. Good chance that was just PR guff and the decision is already made.
Bollocks
Bayern will snatch him up any day now.All these top clubs going after him as predicted
Trust the process!
Exactly, they have already made their mind up but finally those running the show are putting out the right messages and not distracting the team and manager.
They are way too sensible to judge everything one one game.
The amateur hour before were everything was leaked and everyone knew Jose was coming in for LVG.
Well, no point discussing anything until after the FA Cup then. I'm disappointed we're willing to throw away our only chance at a trophy this season, but oh well.
He was never getting sacked before the final. Bizarre that anyone thought he would be.
They shouldn't have said Champions League was important for FFP, which has shot them in the foot.
That and 12th best attacking team in the league.
Completely tallies up with the eye test.
I voted yes, I think he at least deserves the chance to end his tenure with a trophy, if he does go. It's saddening to see really, there were times in 2022/23 season where I thought we looked like we were progressing as a team but towards the end we just fell apart and he's not been able to put things right since. That being said, I don't think there's a manager alive right now who could come in and put things right within two seasons
I agree about EtH but he really frustrated me when he started talking about United DNA and being "the best transition team" and that you have to play a certain way here. If he had come in and wanted to change United into more of a possession team and if that meant a squad restructure AND we could see progress then I would absolutely take a few seasons out of the champions league if it meant building proper foundations. It can be done- if you look at Klopp or Arteta's first teams you see a huge transformation in player quality and style and i'd be fine with a process like that here at United, even if it took time.
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I think most wanted him or at least a lot of fans. The end was really bad, but his two full seasons he won two trophies and qualified for the CL twice, so… by number of trophies, yes. Agree the football wasn’t fun to watch.
Well Ole never won anything, but finished 2nd and 3rd in his two full seasons. Made 3 finals I think?
Van Gaal won an FA cup and had a 4th place and 5th place.
Moyes… no.
Rangnick, no.
Mourinho 2 trophies, 2 CL qualifications, 2nd and 6th. Left before the end of his 3rd season.
Ten hag has a league cup and we’ll be 6th or lower this season.
‘I’d say that’s the very definition of “arguably’.
I also thought his football was difficult to watch and there was always drama.
''And the Tea Lady. heh. I ask her for 2 sugars in my Tea. She gives me only, one, every morning.'' ''Now you see what I have to deal with and why we are 6th.''
Agreed.
Isn't that also what Southampton did by hiring Russell Martin whilst Wilcox was there?
What problems?
"We are one of the most dynamic and entertaining teams in the league at this moment"
I don't think anyone who's for real would have expected him to put things right within two seasons.
It's not acceptable to become significantly worse though. I think most people would have accepted a slight drop off in a level given the amount of football played last year and the amount of injuries. You simply can't go from looking pretty solid for most of a season to one of the worst teams in the league in terms of performance. We are where we are in the table due to the quality of some of our players, nothing we've done this season has been an example of a great team performance bar some successful backs to the wall defensive displays.
I'm genuinely shocked he's still our manager, should have been sacked ages ago. With that said, it would not surprise me in the slightest if we somehow won the FA Cup final and Antony gets the winner with our only shot on target or something, just seems to go that way for Ten Hag sometimes.
I dont think he actually believes this to be fair
400 million and two years later ... all our footballers are for sale, all our lines have major problems, we need to start over from scratch.
If this is not a complete failure, I don't know what it is.
ETH is our worst manager in the past 30 years, worse than Rangnick and Moyes. He wasted 400 million and we don't have a single world-class player.
If this is not a complete failure, I don't know what it is.
ETH is our worst manager in the past 30 years, worse than Rangnick and Moyes. He wasted 400 million and we don't have a single world-class player.
I genuinely hope he does not or his claim about McTominay being very creative. If he does then things are more desperate than I imagined.
We've only finished lower than 6th once since 1990 and that was in Moyes' season. Good chances it'll happen again with Newcastle finishing above us and possibly Chelsea as well...
I want him out but I don't see the the point in doing it before the end of the season.
He was a pretty popular choice on the forum when appointed - something new and going to bring us up with the times with a modern progressive manager.
However I've seen no progression just the opposite. We have no identity on the pitch, too little effort and no confidence.
Last season seems to have been reinvented as something close to glorious. We are dire and need to face up to it before we can even approach something acceptable.
Having said that United till I die.
So he is just lying to fans now?
Declining month-by-month.
And yet some will still defend this inept manager for a top club.
It's a press conference. Managers almost never say the truth.
Jesus Christ, bit of a platitude defending his team in the media is "lying to fans".
Just checking if your understanding is that normally managers come out after a game and give a thorough and accurate analysis of all failings of the players?
Sack him when this season is over like LVG, whether he can win the FA Cup like LVG remains to be seen.
Obviously beating Palace is totally different than beating Oil Money FC, hell, even Lingard scored a cup final goal against Palace for LVG.
Obviously beating Palace is totally different than beating Oil Money FC, hell, even Lingard scored a cup final goal against Palace for LVG.
This poll is very different to the last. So, a lot of the people who were for sacking him in the last poll want to at least give him the chance at the final.
Are people really happy with going into a final against City with him? If you want him out anyway, surely you don't have any faith in him winning it? Why not give ourselves the best chance by getting in someone who can at least coach a coherent system?
Are people really happy with going into a final against City with him? If you want him out anyway, surely you don't have any faith in him winning it? Why not give ourselves the best chance by getting in someone who can at least coach a coherent system?
Can see him persuading Wilcox during these talks he is worthy of another season. Will probably bring up a lack of fit existing players along with need to sign ones who are mobile and athletic.
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