stevoc
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Same, December 2013 to be exact
Been a few rare bright spots since then, very rare mind.
Same, December 2013 to be exact
As shocking as this sounds, he could actually still scrape 5th and maybe even CL. I can absolutely see a Spurs collapse at this point when Arsenal paste them.Bailed out of what exactly? He's just conceded 5 goals to Coventry and Sheffield United in a matter of days. The manner of both wins are further nails in his coffin.
Time to celebratePositive goal difference now and up to the lofty heights of 6th. Cracking night.
He's not been bailed out of anything. Unless the new owners are complete idiots. The last two games has been more damning evidence that he needs to go.More lives than a cat this guy. This game however should still demonstrate why he needs replaced, not buy him breathing space.
The scousers losing too. Hat trick of a night.Time to celebrate
I thought CL for 5th was gone?As shocking as this sounds, he could actually still scrape 5th and maybe even CL. I can absolutely see a Spurs collapse at this point when Arsenal paste them.
+1, +1!!!!!
The players routinely bail him out. He's also had luck with decisions. If Bruno wasn't in crazy good form, we'd be even worse.He's not been bailed out of anything. Unless the new owners are complete idiots. The last two games has been more damning evidence that he needs to go.
Needs every German side to lose every game across all the 3 competitions and villa to win all of their games remainingI thought CL for 5th was gone?
Seems unlikely. Also unlikely Spurs lose a 7 point swing and we put a run together.Needs every German side to lose every game across all the 3 competitions and villa to win all of their games remaining
So you're saying there's a chance...Needs every German side to lose every game across all the 3 competitions and villa to win all of their games remaining
So United haven’t been awful for the last 11 years? We haven’t played good football in 11 years with numerous proven managers at the helm. Every single manager we have had has ended in a ball of flames. Every single manager has got worse and worse.. because the rot has set in deeper and deeper. It will only get worse until the root issue is solved. It’s beyond simply changing a manager.Every manager has players who don't work out. But few seem as proficient as Twn Hag in that regard.
People have been saying its the players for 10 despite the fact we've changed the squad almost twice over by this stage.
A lot of the players doo need to go but that doesn't change the fact this season is largely down to the manager. They aren't mutually exclusive problems.
As I said; the owners would have to have a deficit IQ to use the last two games as evidence to keep him. It should be more evidence of why he has to go. It's all total chaos.The players routinely bail him out. He's also had luck with decisions. If Bruno wasn't in crazy good form, we'd be even worse.
Indeed.As I said; the owners would have to have a deficit IQ to use the last two games as evidence to keep him. It should be more evidence of why he has to go. It's all total chaos.
No ideaI thought CL for 5th was gone?
Every single manager we've signed has been shite. Maybe it's as simple as that. None of them have gone on to great things after leaving United.So United haven’t been awful for the last 11 years? We haven’t played good football in 11 years with numerous proven managers at the helm. Every single manager we have had has ended in a ball of flames. Every single manager has got worse and worse.. because the rot has set in deeper and deeper. It will only get worse until the root issue is solved. It’s beyond simply changing a manager.
pep wouldn’t win the league at man united. Neither would Klopp. Neither would ancelotti.
this is bigger than a managerial change. We need to try something different and actually BACK a manager. No matter how bad it gets, it will take time, it will get ugly, it won’t be pretty. We knew this. We have known this for a long time. Once the rot is cleared and it’s a totally different team/squad/set up, then the excuses run out.
...No idea
Needs every German side to lose every game across all the 3 competitions and villa to win all of their games remaining
He's so lucky they might just give it to him somehow
Well you would like to think so, but nothing surprises me with this club anymoreHe's not been bailed out of anything. Unless the new owners are complete idiots. The last two games has been more damning evidence that he needs to go.
Yes, exactly. There are certain other factors. But, we've appointed managers in a bizarre, directionless manner and not one of them has been remotely good enough. In fact, all of them have had a massive hand in our demise.Every single manager we've signed has been shite. Maybe it's as simple as that. None of them have gone on to great things after leaving United.
Ah come on, this club is in a shambles it doesn’t matter who manages us.Every single manager we've signed has been shite. Maybe it's as simple as that. None of them have gone on to great things after leaving United.
For the new man.He's so lucky they might just give it to him somehow
Then let's just not have a manager at allAh come on, this club is in a shambles it doesn’t matter who manages us.
We have been poor for 11 years due in no small part to hiring a series of average or past it managers. None of them have went elsewhere and proven their sacking incorrect.So United haven’t been awful for the last 11 years? We haven’t played good football in 11 years with numerous proven managers at the helm. Every single manager we have had has ended in a ball of flames. Every single manager has got worse and worse.. because the rot has set in deeper and deeper. It will only get worse until the root issue is solved. It’s beyond simply changing a manager.
pep wouldn’t win the league at man united. Neither would Klopp. Neither would ancelotti.
this is bigger than a managerial change. We need to try something different and actually BACK a manager. No matter how bad it gets, it will take time, it will get ugly, it won’t be pretty. We knew this. We have known this for a long time. Once the rot is cleared and it’s a totally different team/squad/set up, then the excuses run out.
There are absolutely other factors, but they don't overweight the fact that we've been signing poor managers, just as we have players like Antony and Sancho. It's not always that complicated and deep. A change in ownership on the football side will hopefully change this cycle for the better.Yes, exactly. There are certain other factors. But, we've appointed managers in a bizarre, directionless manner and not one of them has been remotely good enough. In fact, all of them have had a massive hand in our demise.
I think your sarcasm detector is on the blink mate.Erik is in charge of the coaching the motivation and everything in between. I don’t care if you think he didn’t let them in, open your eyes and see this team under his guidance is going absolutely nowhere
Correct Robbie.Yes, exactly. There are certain other factors. But, we've appointed managers in a bizarre, directionless manner and not one of them has been remotely good enough. In fact, all of them have had a massive hand in our demise.
Who has gone on to do great things after being sacked by United then? Surely one of them would have proved us wrong.Ah come on, this club is in a shambles it doesn’t matter who manages us.