It was ridiculously unlucky given the multiple decisions that went against us. The team went out with a plan that they executed well and looked to be playing for him. I’ve slated him a lot on here but we simply can’t sack him currently based off these recent performances.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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More likely to start well in Istanbul then collapse and lose again.
Wolves first game of the season (Shaw / Martinez fit) set the tone for this injury changes the dynamic argument. Injuries do have an effect but a fully fit eleven doesn't significantly raise the team's performance levels. Anyone watching games over 90 mins can see this, I'd imagine it's 50 x worse when assessing the team live because you'd be able to see the movement and shape which hasn't worked.
There is no plan B. Our players are trying but they seem lost, they don't know what to do. That's on the manager. We had a 2 goal advantage when the red card happened, and he did nothing! We conceded 4 goals against an inferior team, that's not acceptable for a Man Utd manager.
Terrible officiating tonight. But it's up to ETH to make us tough to beat under those circumstances. Conceding 4 to Copenhagen just isn't acceptable even with 10 men. His in-game management was once again atrocious. I get it that we have the worst luck in the world right now, but I just don't see him turning this around. We're too chaotic and lack any type of organization and discipline in our game and that's down to him.
So in 5 years they’re going to win the league 12 times? Impressive.
The debatable pens evened out in the end and we still lost.
Mathematically yes.
Actually, we're not winning the next 2 games, full stop.
The Copenhagen games were our easiest in the group and we should have had 6 points. We fecked it up. Good luck getting anything from Galata in Turkey or from Bayern.
Sacking him won't matter until we get a proper structure in place, especially around new contracts and signings. If we get rid I am happy to wait until Jim has sporting control.
I’m EtH out but today is not on him. Today and Galatasaray were on stupid player mistakes but I suppose the question should be asked why is it is this happens to.
I can understand not rating the manager before today's game. But today, seriously? We set up very well, we showed fight despite the complete nonsense refereeing. We actually even kept the ball well for most of the game despite being 10 men down... why's Ten Hag getting blame here? Today of all games? We want to have a go at him when we played with 10 men for 60 minutes?
Can’t fault him for Ref but bizzare choice of subs. Took ages considering we were down to 10 men and we needed pace to stretch them instead he brought Mount up front. Feel we could have still posed a threat but that killed any attacking momentum.
I for one am eager to see who he next brings in from the eredivisie to fix this mess…….
Last season we scored the most goals from subs in the league, hardly stuff of consistently bad subs.
Who would you have brought on from our puddle of attacking talent?
Manager has to handle it better when things go wrong during the game.
OK. Would 10 be better? Loser mentality.
Today isn't on him but he is also responsible for where we are.
You joke, but favouritism and losing the dressing room was what really did him in the end.
We should see a lot of Caftards embarrassing themselves tonight in this thread, that's for sure.
We're almost a third of the way through the season and I haven't enjoyed watching a single game we've played.
Regardless of the results, that is unforgivable. Life is actually too short to keep giving time to watching this team week in, week out.
Regardless of the results, that is unforgivable. Life is actually too short to keep giving time to watching this team week in, week out.
His in game management looks worse than Ole's.
We were playing them off the park until the ref decided to give them and extra man and free pen to boot.
Bit of a weird game so don't blame him hugely but his in game management was questionable tonight. The Mount sub and just general approach to the game after the red and conceding were bizarre.
It’s over
Today is not a day to blame him. If we play Galatasaray and Bayern the way we played out first 40 mins with XI men, I think wel be fine.
But it's correct that he should have navigated prior games better.
But it's correct that he should have navigated prior games better.
It was a fantastic away CL performance until the officials fecked us. I appreciate he has his flaws but does he not get any credit for that?
Anyone who wants us to sack this man now needs to rethink
Without that red card, we would have won that game comfortably
If we weren't fecked over by injuries especially defensively, what would have been?
This is the same man that brought our trophy drought to an end and now that he's experiencing a crisis, we want to axe him
What sort of loyalty is that?
Imagine if we had the same sort of patience with Fergie, what would have (not) been?
Without that red card, we would have won that game comfortably
If we weren't fecked over by injuries especially defensively, what would have been?
This is the same man that brought our trophy drought to an end and now that he's experiencing a crisis, we want to axe him
What sort of loyalty is that?
Imagine if we had the same sort of patience with Fergie, what would have (not) been?
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I just hate all the excuses made for him. We've seen other managers come in and make an instant impact (even at fecking Spurs) but he's 18 months in, all his signings are basically shit (or injured) and a style of play is no closer than fecking Mars.
Honestly can't make it up at the moment.
Without that red we ride out a comfy 3 or 4 nil win and the pressure lifts immeasurably and Confidence is up.
Without that red we ride out a comfy 3 or 4 nil win and the pressure lifts immeasurably and Confidence is up.
We played with 10 men for more than an entire half - and yet we only made 3 subs 
One of them in the 84th minute.
One of them in the 84th minute.
Eh, I wanted him out but +1 that this is not the right game to complain about his management. Was royally fecked by the refs.
I have been done with him for a while. No amount of late wins vs the likes of Fulham is changing his destiny (the sack)
Mount for Hojlund seemed okay, but less if Bruno wasn't replaced by someone actually providing an outlet. Could have been any of Antony, Pellistri and Martial. I kinda thought that he wanted to go for a 4-2-1-2 like that until I noticed that Bruno (or even McT) stayed on the field.
I love ETH, but sometimes with these things he is so confusing, and so stuck to his captain. Was the same with Tadic before – though at least Tadic provided some numbers, and had more variety in his game than Bruno.
Bottom of a group consisting of Copenhagen and Galatasaray.
Sack the clown.
Sack the clown.
On this point, I still can't believe he hasn't focussed on good RB and LB in the transfer windows that he has had. Very naive and piss poor planning in his recruitment.
We need to keep him, I thought we were great and then the red card killed us. We fought back but the defending at the end was awful, especially from Varane. So disappointed in him. Should have played Reguilon over Dalot too.
Playing with 10 men for 60 minutes and conceding 4 goals in those 60 minutes to a vastly inferior team.
Once plan A doesn't work, we seem completely lost, we collapse. This is on the manager.
I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t have taken off the player that scored two goals when we needed a goal
We're out if Europe anyway (most likely) sacking him would do us no good at this point in time.