FIA have changed the rules midseason on a number of occasions in the past. The teams will never agree on this issue so it will end up with FIA forcing it on health and saftey grounds either by the summer break or before it.
That's racing though, if you turn up with a shit box, you should be forced to change to a safer configuration, whereas RB has a safe configuration already, it is pretty pathetic that the only way that the mercs can UNLOCK THE POTENTIAL is to try and hamper the teams that have it under control.
Its not a myopic issue for Mercedes alone but affects the entire grid to some degree.
So make a rule that you are only allowed a certain level of porpoising, which will still allow growth in performance through testing new parts and being allowed to lower the car and gain performance, don't feck teams that have solved it and I'd love to see something feck them up to give Ferrari time to get back into it, but only by doing it the right way.
At the end of the day, I think it's just posturing by Mercedes to get the budget cap lifted.
It's more a concussion discussion longer term. Either way, Mercedes have to make a move here and not wait for the FIA.
But the talk about active suspension or not isn't really relevant because that would be something discussed for next season.
Cost cap is the main reason & length of time to produce it. It'll take a good 1-2 years by which time we'll probably have passive solutions developed by engineers. Not fanboyism.
.It was to level the field again not feck up Mercedes. Unless you believe the wind tunnel time limit was the cause. The proposing cannot be detected in the tunnel, that's why every car was bouncing in the first test. Merc fecked themselves up by designing a terrible car.The funny thing is that the people who have been crying for regulation changes to feck up mercedes after this past half decade of dominance are now acting as if it's a suprise that the regulation changes fecked up the mercs
Not sure if they're just children or really that ignorant.
There is a accelerator meter in the drivers helmet and earpiece so the FIA know the g forces the drivers are experiencing. Down the main straight at baku hamilton was at 6 g. Im amazed he didnt crash.
You seem to be missing the point that on sunday EVERY driver on the grid voted for porposing to be fixed apart from Alonso. Including the RB pair. Make of that what you will.The funny thing is that the people who have been crying for regulation changes to feck up mercedes after this past half decade of dominance are now acting as if it's a suprise that the regulation changes fecked up the mercs
Not sure if they're just children or really that ignorant.
Sure reintroducing ground effect after 4 decades and then limiting certain teams a lot more than others in the windtunnel had no consequences whatsoever. They might not have mastered the purposing in the wind tunnel but it's a result of aerodynamics and as such the teams would have surely understood more about it with more time.
There's teams affected worse than others, but none of the top teams are experiencing it as badly as the mercs, I think we can all be honest about that.
I disagree , if it was only Mercedes you might have a point, Horner has mentioned budget also this season.
I suspect both long term brain and spinal cord injuries similar to what American football players are going through could happen if they don't put a stop to it. And unlike concussions it will take a long time to manifest so it would be too late.
Not sure you are being serious, did you miss the part about all the drivers apart from Alonso saying the same ?The funny thing is that the people who have been crying for regulation changes to feck up mercedes after this past half decade of dominance are now acting as if it's a suprise that the regulation changes fecked up the mercs
Not sure if they're just children or really that ignorant.
I'm not saying Mercedes where the only ones handicapped. I think if every team had unlimited wind tunnel time and testing time we wouldn't see any of it anywhere. The resources allowed were inversely proportionate to the past success. I don't see how this is controversial to be honest.
I have been doing some reading and found this, they need a new type of windtunnel to detect and eliminate porpoising. Wind tunnels have been intentionally limited by the FIA to cut costs. - Teams can only run a 60% scale mock-up.
Speaking of ignorant, exactly how did the 2022 changes specifically target Mercedes?The funny thing is that the people who have been crying for regulation changes to feck up mercedes after this past half decade of dominance are now acting as if it's a suprise that the regulation changes fecked up the mercs
Not sure if they're just children or really that ignorant.
It did not target Mecedes.
This bit got me.
Maybe it's a question of perspective? Horner might mean that Mercedes's drivers are arguing for a regulations change to deal with the porpoising (which might erase some of RB's current advantage, depending on the change), while Horner would probably rather see FIA demand that teams protect their drivers better within the current regulations (which might increase RB's current advantage, at least over the worst affected teams.)
Yeh there's clearly two very different arguments going on simultaneously.
1. Mercedes had mastered the now old suspension setup (side dampers, side springs, heave springs, heave dampers, roll springs, rolldampers, inerters, hydraulic links with damper settings, gas springs). The newer simplfied setup for 2022 only has heave spring, torsion bars, rockers and dampers. This has badly affected Mercedes and a car that produces downforce by the bucketload.
The ace in the deck for RB is Newery he is design royalty.
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"In the latter stages Hamilton said on the radio that his seat had gone cold, despite the race taking place in warm conditions with track temperatures in excess of 45C. Vowles said the cold sensation Hamilton experienced was in fact a consequence of the violent bouncing he suffered. "I spent a few minutes with Lewis earlier to actually ask him what happened. Nothing really had changed in the car, it just looks like after the amount of pummelling his back had taken from the bouncing, he fundamentally had a numbness that set in and it looks like the cold was a response to that. "So there wasn't anything cold in the car. It's just a response to the amount of endurance and pain he'd been through in the race."
