They are strong in one lap but then the tire degradation is faster than RB.
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? their tyre deg was miles better in austria.
previously they ran a much higher downforce setup, but since they’ve put the lower downforce wing on the car it seems a lot better.
I think this has swung it back to ferrari which seems the better race car.
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Think the times and analysis did show that Ferrari had higher deg than RB on race sim. And generally their pace advantage on race sim was not there today like it was for quali sim. We should have a great chance at pole with Leclerc though.
I was expecting both Merc's to be closer to RB and Ferrari than they are.
Sainz 10 place grid drop ,should Ferrari opt to stagger any further power unit changes through the rest of the weekend - an approach taken with Charles Leclerc in Canada - and take a fresh engine, turbocharger, MGU-K or MGU-K, then it would drop Sainz to the back of the grid,, this means he is not winning this weekend.
Looks like a battle between Max and Leclerc with Russell and Lewis in a fight for 3rd.
Sainz 10 place grid drop ,should Ferrari opt to stagger any further power unit changes through the rest of the weekend - an approach taken with Charles Leclerc in Canada - and take a fresh engine, turbocharger, MGU-K or MGU-K, then it would drop Sainz to the back of the grid,, this means he is not winning this weekend.
Looks like a battle between Max and Leclerc with Russell and Lewis in a fight for 3rd.
Austria circuit was degrading predominantly the rear tires , unlike the Paul Ricard circuit which erodes mainly the front. Check the last laptimes which was simulation of race pace. Of course they might be sandbagging but I doubt it.
What they should be doing is giving Charles a new engine this weekend as well and taking the penalty here.
I agree, give him the new engine, back of the grid, see what he can do, he will still get in the points.
I dont see the sense in doing it in another race and taking yet another grid drop.
Red Bull boss Christian Horner says it's too late to agree new rules for 2023 that change the design of the floor of current Formula 1 cars in a bid to tackle 'porpoising'.
In response to concerns about the severity of the oscillation being experienced by some cars, and its physical effects on the drivers, the FIA has moved to make changes based on safety requirements.
A technical directive introducing a new Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric (AOC) will be introduced for the Belgian Grand Prix, and there there will also be new restrictions on 'flexible' floors.
But further changes planned for 2023 have been attacked by Horner who says teams are already too far along in their plans for next season to incorporate a whole new set of requirements.
“It’s not so much the directive that’s an issue, I think the problem is what they’re looking at as a remedy for next year," he told Sky Sports F1 on Friday at Circuit Paul Ricard.
“The directive is neither here nor there for us," he insisted. Instead, Horner was more annoyed by the fact that the FIA seemed to be responding to pressure from one team in particular, which one can guess is likely Mercedes.
"I think there’s an awful lot of lobbying to change regulations significantly for next year," he said. “A certain team can run its car lower and benefit from that concept. It’s a very late point in the year to be doing it."
Full read is here.
Horner says it's too late to change 2023 floor rules (f1i.com)
In response to concerns about the severity of the oscillation being experienced by some cars, and its physical effects on the drivers, the FIA has moved to make changes based on safety requirements.
A technical directive introducing a new Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric (AOC) will be introduced for the Belgian Grand Prix, and there there will also be new restrictions on 'flexible' floors.
But further changes planned for 2023 have been attacked by Horner who says teams are already too far along in their plans for next season to incorporate a whole new set of requirements.
“It’s not so much the directive that’s an issue, I think the problem is what they’re looking at as a remedy for next year," he told Sky Sports F1 on Friday at Circuit Paul Ricard.
“The directive is neither here nor there for us," he insisted. Instead, Horner was more annoyed by the fact that the FIA seemed to be responding to pressure from one team in particular, which one can guess is likely Mercedes.
"I think there’s an awful lot of lobbying to change regulations significantly for next year," he said. “A certain team can run its car lower and benefit from that concept. It’s a very late point in the year to be doing it."
Full read is here.
Horner says it's too late to change 2023 floor rules (f1i.com)
Am I right in saying the flexi floors limit the porpoising and bouncing effects. Why not just make them legal next year.
It's more the opposite I believe. The more flex = more porpoising, but better performance.
Stiffen it up and they dont seal as well but don't bounce as much. Hence why they've all been trying to stiffen the floors to stop it.
That might be true if both cars could run a whole race.
Looks like verstappen will drive off into the distance tomorrow unless leclerc can keep him honest. The RB looks far too quick even for the ferraris
Usual horner moaning.
Their race pace was stunning yesterday, but Leclerc might still pull off pole, and try and see if the tyre deg comes in for the RedBull while following him around.
French GP FP3 timesheet
Max looks again the one to beat.
Let's see what qualifying brings.
Let's see what qualifying brings.
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Track temp is going to play a part, 33 air temp and 57 track temp.
Going to be touch on the rubber.
Going to be touch on the rubber.
Mecedes have changed Lewis's wing atter FP3 , he was missing straight-line speed
Will we see much from Sainz today ? Starting at the back of the grid for the race, dont see him pushing much even in FP1.
Paul Ricard is such a cool track.
One of my favourite tracks.
Any made a valid point about using him to tow Leclerc in Q3
Hate this track purely because the blue stripes are distracting and the camera angles are terrible.
I saw that also, never thought about it, but would Max need the tow to get Pole.
They may want to save tyres for the race.
Yeah the camera angles are annoying me. And the stripes also do my head in. Decent racing circuit though.
Yeah not sure.
Red Bull top speed is insane.
Mercedes well off the pace
Agree about the stripes, but the track layout is very good.
Camera angles yeah could be better.
It's too low to the ground, no appreciation for where you are on the track or what way they are about to turn!
With all their upgrades seemingly paying dividends, I can’t help but feel this is a critical weekend for Danny Ric.
Sometimes makes you wonder who says the upgrades are upgrades, half the time they don't seem to even work.
Yeah it’s fecking annoying.
Track limits again, 2 drivers lost times.
Cost Sch a top 10 in Q1
Cost Sch a top 10 in Q1
OUT IN Q1!
16) Pierre Gasly, AlphaTauri
17) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin
18) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
19) Mick Schumacher, Haas
20) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
16) Pierre Gasly, AlphaTauri
17) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin
18) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
19) Mick Schumacher, Haas
20) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
Gasly would be disappointed, I thought he looked quick in the FPs
Schu was just over the track limits.
RB lap under 1:32
Monster lap from Sainz 1.31.081
Whoa. What a lap Sainz.
Sainz is very good when there is no pressure.