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Forrest Gimp
I'm not his biggest fan, but is Lindelof fully fit? Would Ralf have the balls to play him over Maguire and see how he fares with Varane?
I was at the game and I have seen it about ten times.You’re talking absolute fecking bollocks. Nonsense. Watch that goal again, it’s in the post match thread and tell me that’s what a defender should be doing — getting sucked into midfield, when there’s absolutely no danger. Again you’re talking nonsense. Everything you’ve just said there is a load of bollocks.
Exactly....McTominay should be getting goal side and covering Maguire and Verane should stay with his man. The mistake happens the moment McTominay goes in and runs into Maguire. Maguire was doing the right thing. Had McTominay read the play right he wouldn't bother with the man and rather cover for his centre half. This way verane doesn't have to leave his man and the entire mess is avoided...I was at the game and I have seen it about ten times.
You're showing a lack of actual footballing nous. I called out your "he should hold the line" comment because that is meaningless. It's the kind of drivel people who don't really understand what they are watching say. It sort of sounds intuitively right, and other people just sort of nod, but it means nothing.
Most teams in the PL play with one CF, including Burnley. When the ball goes into the CF, it is the job of the nearest CB to get tight, not allow them to turn and force them to play the ball backwards (if they cant win it) into the (hopefully) congested midfield area.
What you do not do, is what you are suggesting, and just leave them and "hold the line", because in that scenario, it's the easiest thing in the world for the opposition to just knock the ball into the CF and launch attack after attack. The CF can turn, they can drive at the defence, they can slip passes in, they can get shots away etc...
I repeat, a mistake WAS made by Maguire, that's not disputed, but it's not going in with the CF. The mistake is getting turned, that can't happen. But again, we're talking about an incident that's recoverable or avoidable if others do their jobs properly. How many times did we catch Burnley out? Intercept poor passes? Turn or beat their defenders? Get 3 vs 2 overloads? I counted multiple times, yet we didn't punish Burnley like they punished us for arguably the only mistake we made defensively.
As usual, something which I would say is quite a middling mistake in the grand scheme is blown out of all proportion.
How could Varane do anything else than get between Weghorst and the net? You would have preferred for him to leave a corridor to De Gea in the middle of the box?People are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem
Funny how your fellow countryman above you believes otherwise.The Mariana Trench has a depth of 36,037 feet. So Harry genuinely deserves a -36,037 rating for today alone.
I'm done with that fecking guy.
The guys don’t have a clue what they’re talking about, obviously never heard of jockeying an attacker or pushing them out wide, the simplest tricks a defender has, instead of leaving a massive gap to drive a lorry through in defence. You wouldn’t catch Maldini or Chiellini at that.How could Varane do anything else than get between Weghorst and the net? You would have preferred for him to leave a corridor to De Gea in the middle of the box?
So his action is worth 6 Pages of being shat on, while Shaw gets two? Was he that bad the whole game? NoAside from Shaw playing them on, he was next on the list.
He went charging in for a ball he was never going to win, got spun and left them a free run at goal.
His mistake is a lot more obvious than Shaw's, if it's just a ball played through and Shaw keeps them all on then he's totally to blame. But what Maguire does is just so wrong.So his action is worth 6 Pages of being shat on, while Shaw gets two? Was he that bad the whole game? No
He is our captain and the most expensive defender in the history of football. Perhaps not entirely fair as it is not his fault we paid 80m for him and he did not give himself the armband (although he can give it up I guess), but he was always going to be under more scrutiny because of that.So his action is worth 6 Pages of being shat on, while Shaw gets two? Was he that bad the whole game? No
He's been chosen by two managers now as captain, maybe he's a good leader? Maybe the players want him?He is our captain and the most expensive defender in the history of football. Perhaps not entirely fair as it is not his fault we paid 80m for him and he did not give himself the armband (although he can give it up I guess), but he was always going to be under more scrutiny because of that.
There was no way Rangnick would have changed the captain as an interim manager.He's been chosen by two managers now as captain, maybe he's a good leader? Maybe the players want him?
I know the fans wants Bruno or whatever, but thats just fans being erratic and clueless. Fans doesnt get a vote on who the players and managers think are good leaders. It just doesnt make any sense.
Had he been very good? Not at all. But the shit he gets is way over the top. There are many others who are equally at blame. Price that doesnt mean shit. They all start for man united
Well said. Same hereIf he starts against Atletico with their million 2nd strikers and Lemar and De Paul running ahead I'll have a heart attack
People are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem
even your own description of what happened shows the obvious mistakePeople are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem
The fact you're from Canada means nothing ffsPeople are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem
If he's atleast as good as the Jonny Evans when he played for us, I feel most people wouldn't even complain this much.Tackling his own man is his signature move. Johnny Evans regen.
Nobody cares about your defend-Magure-at-all-costs shtick. Find new material.People are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem
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Maybe you're the one everyone is forced to like.Really? I love all member of my family. It's very concerning if you have someone you are forced to love in your family. Must be your step sibling or step parent.
Love him. Every time he fecks up, he comes out with 'we' No YOU Harry You are garbage. Easily our 4th best CB, but because Woody thought it would be a good idea to spend 80M..... 80 fecking million on you, we are stuck.Tweet
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The first 2 seconds of that clip, look at his eyes. Like a fecking rabbit in the headlights. Thats how he plays also. Out of his depth here