ICC Cricket World Cup 2019
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Having been a pathetic ODI side for decades, England should be happy to take any WC win they can
Totally agreed.
England are deserved champions, for having been the best team in the tournament, and No 1 in ODI rankings for past few years. For example, since the 2015 World Cup, England have won 71% of their ODI games, the best ODI win percentage amongst all teams.
It also fits that New Zealand are deserved runners up, given their consistency since 2015 final, and having convincingly beaten India in semi final.
While it's absolutely true that there was no difference between the teams in the final, the 46 day process of finding the best team ended up with the right result.
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The pathetic ODI side for decades has won as many world cups as you lot over the last two decades. I really don't get where the indian superiority complex comes from.
Me neither!
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Not only the last 4 years, during the tournament they won all their must win games under pressure, can't take anyone seriously saying they didn't deserve it and like the saying goes you make your own luck.
Calm down. It’s too easy to wind people up on here
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... do you watch cricket? We've been better at ODIs than England for almost 30 years and even now, at their incredible best, we're not miles away. Heck, by the time we played them a few days back, we were considered the favourites.
I'm I right, that India have prioritised ODI over tests for a long time? That's how I remember it growing up.
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Up until 2014, yeah we did. Since then, we've been determined to be the best in the longer forms. The Indian 2008-2011 team was the best I've ever seen and they were doing, 10 years ago, what England do now. Have a look at that tour:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cricket_team_in_New_Zealand_in_2008–09
Gambhir was a beast in that tour. You are right the 2008-2011 circa was the best period for India in ODIs. The way we prepared for 2011 wc was really good. Slowly grooming Kohli to be the next big thing. Sad how we became complacent after 2013 Champions trophy. We have been decent but we should have won more major trophies.
That middle was so good and underrated (Rainas case) - Yuvraj, Raina and Dhoni are up there with the best middle to lower order batsmen ever in ODIs.
What part of my statement is wrong?
The part where you decided that winning a World Cup is the only measure to determine whether a team is good or not.
Had it not been for a stupidly over powered Australian side, we may have won 3 WCs.
Does this mean both national football teams are at the same level since neither have a won a major tournament in 50 years?
If anything he's proven your point.
India have been miles better than England at ODI for the last 30 years and yet we've both won 1 World Cup in that time.
India have underachieved really, they should be dominant in limited overs cricket especially.
Had it not been for a stupidly dominant Australia side, we would have won 2 more as well. If and buts count for jack shit.Its funny how they were clowning england for celebrating being number one in the ODI ranking and now are using the same metric for their team.
Difference between 2019 and everyother year is that there wasnt a power house Australian side in the way.
Why should we be so dominant? Our bowling till now has always been inconsistent.
Arguing with you is like talking to a brick wall.
Its funny how they were clowning england for celebrating being number one in the ODI ranking and now are using the same metric for their team.
If you look through this recent debate - its not been about how India are the best. Its the fact that we've always been levels above India. Learn to read.
Wait, wasn't this the EXACT argument being used to discredit England's last 4 years when it looked like they wouldn't win the World Cup?!
Even a brick wall is right twice a day. That is to say learn to write.
Nope, I said Englands dominance would be pointless if they didnt have something to show for it. Not that it would prove that they werent a good team.
And yet you guys didn't even make it to the finals.
Well if there was no powerhouse Australian side in your way why didn't you win it? Why didn't you even make the final?
I don't get what your overall point is. Are you trying to say, between say 96-2015, we werent consistently better than England in ODIs?
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Absolutely mental that the trophy went to the team that scored more boundaries.
That's like in football, after extra time saying the team with more shots at goal wins. Crazy
Should have been super overs until there's a winner
Cannot disagree with that. Like I said in my earlier post we should have won more major trophies since 2011. But you also have to realize winning a WC can be tricky. It can be matter of margins and sometimes you need that one bit of luck to win it. Of course hard work and preparation are the key and I feel since 2015 England have done the best preparation and are deserving champions
Sounds like India have replaced South Africa as the chokers of cricket
Because we're not that good. Its something posters including myself have constantly stated throughout this thread. Check the prediction thread and who I said would win the WC - should give you an idea.
That I dont know why you are harping about dominant australian sides and how that cost you two world cups. Just sounds like sour grapes.
For sure, 2016, 2017, 2019. I said this right after we got knocked out. We've a solid team that can't get over the line.
It's amazing how he can't see this simple flaw in his logic.
Why not do this. Read back to when I replied to you. Make some sense of what you're saying and then what I said.
But it does not make India a crap or any less team. It is all fine margins. Kohli could have easily been given not out or had we survived the first 5 overs we could have cake walked to 240. NZ for the first 10 over brought their A game and were rewarded for their efforts. Similarly they actually bowled really well in the first 5 overs against England but they were not rewarded.
Anyways there is no end to ifs and buts and that is why whoever wins the trophy are called world champions.
I thought you said India and Australia were the best teams in this tournament. Why didn't you win it if not Australia? You're a walking contradiction.
Indian fan telling us winning a world cup isn't everything. We have come a full circle in 2 weeks in this thread