Cliche Guevara
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Pages 9-49Jeez this escalated fast.
Page 8 on saturday, now page 50.
can someone point me to the meltdowns?
Pages 9-49Jeez this escalated fast.
Page 8 on saturday, now page 50.
can someone point me to the meltdowns?
Sky Sports said were "in talks" with Inter. Other reports say we have verbal agreement with the player.Jeez this escalated fast.
Page 8 on saturday, now page 50.
can someone point me to the meltdowns?
I'd say Miki is wasted on the wing either way, as he doesn't really take the full back on. Lingard does, but he's a lot more comfortable on the left (I'm not sure he's played at all on the left this season though). Miki was incredible last season, but that's because the whole front line up were very flexible, so he wasn't an out and out RW.Since when? Mkhitaryan has been at his best on the right -- played most of his football there for Dortmund too. Likewise for Lingard, who too is probably at his best through the middle. We don't have a single genuine winger.
Right? When I loaded the page it was on 8 as the last post read. madnessJeez this escalated fast.
Page 8 on saturday, now page 50.
can someone point me to the meltdowns?
I've added a couple of helpful threadmarks.Jeez this escalated fast.
Page 8 on saturday, now page 50.
can someone point me to the meltdowns?
Having watched youtube, I've seen 10minutes more of him than you. He looks like a budget Bale from his last season with Spurs.Not seen a single minute of Inter games or any Youtube compilations but after reading a few summary posts, I'm convinced and will stereotype him as the next Olic. Because Croatian, hard working and quality but not quality.
6 ft 2, hard as feck, he gets the reds excited.....Can see why jose likes him. 6'2, quick and strong looking. our first team will be like a rugby pack next season.
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6ft 2, eyes of blue, Ivan Perisic may or may not be poo6 ft 2, hard as feck, he gets the reds excited.....
Doesn't he cut in a lot too, and shoot on his right?He is a left footed Antonio Valencia from what I've seen. He'll twist and turn and then go to the left and cross. If you close his left side, then I think you've killed taken him out of the game
I thought he was 2 footed. Fairly sure he is from the times I've watched him play.He is a left footed Antonio Valencia from what I've seen. He'll twist and turn and then go to the left and cross. If you close his left side, then I think you've killed taken him out of the game
Uhh Martial has shown at the very least he needs someone to compete with him/isn't good enough yet. I get he's a "darling" of the forum but his performances have been sketchy at bestAfter watching (half of) 1 YouTube video that had some pleasing trance type music, I have decided he's
a) not good enough
b) too old
c) overpriced
Just play Martial on the left
He is.I thought he was 2 footed. Fairly sure he is from the times I've watched him play.
Interesting perception of him, I always believed that his capability of using both feet was one of his more desirable qualities.He is a left footed Antonio Valencia from what I've seen. He'll twist and turn and then go to the left and cross. If you close his left side, then I think you've killed taken him out of the game
Doesn't he cut in a lot too, and shoot on his right?
I thought he was 2 footed. Fairly sure he is from the times I've watched him play.
Again, this is what I noticed whenever I watched him play. Not saying I see him every week.Interesting perception of him, I always believed that his capability of using both feet was one of his more desirable qualities.
I think the Valencia comparison does him a little bit of disservice. He's good on both feet, and has some variety to his game, but yeah I'm pretty sure he likes going wide and crossing.Again, this is what I noticed whenever I watched him play. Not saying I see him every week.
Used to think I could do a job out wide against him
Wishful thinking. I'd actually be happy to achieve a top four place with that team based on the relative improvements I believe others will make. Seriously.Not gonna lie, after watching that game it made me changed my mind a bit. Ill accept him coming but i wont have major expectations. If he becomes our version of Pandev then ill be fine with that.
Perisic Griezmann Mkhitaryan
Pogba Herrera
Dier
Think thats a good enough 6 to challenge for the title next season.
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Matuidi, Perisic, Griezmann and Belotti?Depends on the price, but looks like a good Jose style winger. I'm Woody knows how much of the budget Jose wants to spend, but i doubts its more than £35m base fee. Costa and Moura could be available for that price.
I'm guessing we have roughly a £200m warchest with Griezman costing £90m, a target man for £45m, winger for £35m, and a CM for £35m.
I didn't watch much of Inter at the Euros.I don't understand why people need YouTube to first see this guy. Did you not watch the Euros?
Martial is currently Lingard's backup. I imagine when signing is done, Lingard will be Perisic's back up and Martial can be used as another option.
You don't pay £40m for cover. He'll be a starter and Martial will be his cover.
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Good post!He does nothing that Rashford, Martial or Mkhitaryan can't already do in the same situation.
At least Griezmann would actually improve us, it's a pretty sure bet.
Belotti may improve us or he may not. But if he performs then at least he could lead the attack with vigor, take defenders on in physical duels and open up space for our young strikers.
Perisic will only take game time from young players who are basically good as him anyway.
It just doesn't make sense.
If we're looking to exploit switches to the right, which I don't really think we are tactically, Douglas Costa is a better option. Mahrez isn't bad at that either. Mourinho didn't rate Mo Salah but at least he's 24, if we're looking for a productive Serie A winger.Under Mourinho Ivanovic was Chelsea's more attacking fullback and Willian (the touchline hugging winger) played in front of him. Valencia is our most attacking fullback so I think Perisic would start in front of him. Haven't we needed someone who is able to exploit switches to the right for a long time? Anyway, if not Perisic, who?
I'm violently against this signing, but I do think Perisic would offer us something different for the next 2-3 seasons that he knows what he's doing defensively and knows how to find and finish a chance out wide. Martial is an excellent dribbler and decent finisher for a winger but not clear Mourinho trust him defensively. Mkhitaryan isn't much defensively and isn't a proper wide man and Rashford is probably best used up top, though he's actually shown enough defensively and as a player for me that I think if we gave him the role we'd give Perisic he'd take to it well enough.He does nothing that Rashford, Martial or Mkhitaryan can't already do in the same situation.
At least Griezmann would actually improve us, it's a pretty sure bet.
Belotti may improve us or he may not. But if he performs then at least he could lead the attack with vigor, take defenders on in physical duels and open up space for our young strikers.
Perisic will only take game time from young players who are basically good as him anyway.
It just doesn't make sense.
That's about right.I'm violently against this signing, but I do think Perisic would offer us something different for the next 2-3 seasons that he knows what he's doing defensively and knows how to find and finish a chance out wide. Martial is an excellent dribbler and decent finisher for a winger but not clear Mourinho trust him defensively. Mkhitaryan isn't much defensively and isn't a proper wide man and Rashford is probably best used up top, though he's actually shown enough defensively and as a player for me that I think if we gave him the role we'd give Perisic he'd take to it well enough.
If this was 10-15M final year of his contract or free with massive wages I think it would be worth it, especially if the idea is to sign Griezmann but not another 9 and play more 4-4-2 with Martial and Rashford fighting for a spot up top (maybe just until Zlatan returns) and Perisic, Mata, the loser of the Martial/Rashford 9 battler and Mkhitaryan as the wing options.
On the other hand, if we sign Griezmann we can just play 4-3-3 with him and Mkhitaryan free to roam and create behind a 9 with Pogba getting another box to box partner and Herrera offering passing and mobility as the 6. Spend the 45M of Perisic money on a box to box midfielder and a 9 and that looks a whole lot better than whatever lineup involves Perisic.
No they werent.. Ajax could have beat them 7-1 at home and even away Lyon got a lucky pen, immediately scored after that too.Roma played with Lyon and lost and Ajax were pretty lucky to win against them
You do know he is right footed?He is a left footed Antonio Valencia from what I've seen. He'll twist and turn and then go to the left and cross. If you close his left side, then I think you've taken him out of the game
To be fair, those kinds of signings barely exist anymore, especially for a club like ours. Everyone knows money is no object, so of course they're going to squeeze us for all they can get. Tbh, 35M is probably the 2017 equivalent of what 10-15M was 5-10 years ago. I know we got Zlatan on a free, but that was very lucky, and he was just about to turn 35, rather than a 28 year old probably in the prime of his career.I'm violently against this signing, but I do think Perisic would offer us something different for the next 2-3 seasons that he knows what he's doing defensively and knows how to find and finish a chance out wide. Martial is an excellent dribbler and decent finisher for a winger but not clear Mourinho trust him defensively. Mkhitaryan isn't much defensively and isn't a proper wide man and Rashford is probably best used up top, though he's actually shown enough defensively and as a player for me that I think if we gave him the role we'd give Perisic he'd take to it well enough.
If this was 10-15M final year of his contract or free with massive wages I think it would be worth it, especially if the idea is to sign Griezmann but not another 9 and play more 4-4-2 with Martial and Rashford fighting for a spot up top (maybe just until Zlatan returns) and Perisic, Mata, the loser of the Martial/Rashford 9 battler and Mkhitaryan as the wing options.
On the other hand, if we sign Griezmann we can just play 4-3-3 with him and Mkhitaryan free to roam and create behind a 9 with Pogba getting another box to box partner and Herrera offering passing and mobility as the 6. Spend the 45M of Perisic money on a box to box midfielder and a 9 and that looks a whole lot better than whatever lineup involves Perisic.