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MyOnlySolskjaer

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With young players, expecting them to be as good as world class players straight away is a sign of your own weird expecations. Nothing more. And the line of argument "We're United. We have a right to expect our players to be world class" similarly misses the point. There's no point developing young players if the standard you hold them up to within a few games of them being given a chance is impossible to meet. In the early months and years you use those performances as a guide to tell you what you might have in the future. This speaking in absolutes - "is/isn't good enough" is particularly galling with young players or managers, when anyone with an iota of common sense could tell you that progress isn't linear. 'Not being good enough now' doesn't mean you won't be in the future (though that's a general point and doesn't even relate to Lingard). It relies on hard work, relevant experience and some good luck and timing. A couple of years ago would anyone have expected Harry Kane to look like one of the best strikers in the league? Had they not hired Pochettino he probably wouldn't have gotten his chance, yet we now know he's more than capable of being a standout player at this level. Likewise, for all that Lingard isn't the finished product, he's heavily influencing the second best team (at the moment) in one the toughest leagues in the world, in one of the most tactically demanding systems which is particularly unforgiving on attacking players. All after less than a dozen games. Surely that's enough to tell us that what he needs now is time and support to see what he might become?
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by far our best player in the first half. Finally he stopped dribbling on every occasion and started playing his pass and move game, joy to watch.
 

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Decent first half. Been quite sharp at times, made some decent passes, and arguably been the brightest spark in what's been a fairly meh attack so far.
 

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Contributed well defensively as well.Bags of energy similar to Young but more fluid and positionally flexible which means much harder to defend against.
 

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Does a lot of things very well but misses a lot of chances.
 

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Can't knock his effort, but he just doesn't seem to have the quality.
 

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Welbeck-esq. Lots of good things, some great things - seems to be missing that one final key piece, for the moment at least. Hopefully he's able to develop that soon-ish.
 

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He was very good in the first half, and arguably our best player. He's been terrible in the second though: seemed to disappear for a large portion of it, and then missed a superb chance when he got one. He's clearly got some talent, but he needs to improve his consistency and, obviously, his finishing.
 

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Have nothing against him, but a player of his quality should not be starting games for us.
 

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Everyone has been terrible in the second half.
Martial needs more time. Just becuase he cost 50m doesnt mean he cant miss chances. Yeah, he had 2 good chances to score but comparing him to Welbeck is harsh.
 

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Was at the centre of everything in the second half. Faded in the second half, in a horrible team performance, and then missed a good chance and will no doubt be the scapegoat.
 

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Some weirdly negative comments against him. He was probably our best player and the only one regularly getting himself in good positions in front of goal. Just a shame he couldn't take one of his opportunities.
 

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Easily our best player tonight based on the first half, because everyone was terrible in the second half. Needs to improve his finishing though.
 

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Some weirdly negative comments against him. He was probably our best player and the only one regularly getting himself in good positions in front of goal. Just a shame he couldn't take one of his opportunities.
He was our best player in the first half, but offered nothing in the second. I quite like him and think he's a decent talent, but he's really got to be stepping up and shining when the team looks quite poor. It's what has already made someone like Martial stand out, for example.
 

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You can't have a go at him, he should not be starting games for us.
 

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His finishing has been really really poor since he got into the first team. That's two really poor ones in two games, we got away with on Saturday but not tonight.

You could see the belief drain from the team when he missed that, which is pathetic I know but it's true.

He was probably our best attacker tonight which isn't saying much I know but still. That miss though, dreadful.
 

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Wont be playing for us in 2 seasons mentioned in match thread he will be at Norwich or WBA level
 

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Can't believe the slagging he's getting tbh. Are you all genuinely incapable of remembering more than 45 minutes ago? Was out best player going forwards in the first half, and given that nobody did anything second half, that makes him our best player going forwards all match.
 

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True - any fool could see he'd have been better off scoring with that shot. I've never played the game at any decent level, and even I knew. Has nobody told him this in training, or does he just not listen?
LVG took the credit when he scored against west brom. I wonder if he'll take the fall for the guy's shit finishing tonight?
 

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Can't finish worth shit apparently. Always seemed a good finisher in the pre season friendlies he played for us and in youth teams, but he just misses chance after chance, and big chances at that.
 

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He puts a mighty shift in and is capable of good play but he misses far too many great chances. That's why I've never believed him to have a long term future here. With that said though he can still hold his head up higher than most tonight, who were casually strolling about.
 

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Yeah, him and our other 10 players.
He's done this in at least three games now.

People like Lingard and I understand why, but he isn't really cutting it. For all of the clamour, he's scored one goal. That's the same as Januzaj, a player who has played three or four games and cops a lot of stick.
 
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