Yeah you wouldn't be you not to take a chance of a cheap shot at Mourinho. At least you're consistent.Calm down precious, I haven’t defended Klopp, his statements make him look like a bellend. But no more so than Jose, who’s also very prone to hypocrisy, so to defend one and attack the other seems pretty hypocritical in itself to me.
Whilst I agree with this, it was either a case of pay up or lose out. We were desperate for a CB, Southampton knew who we wanted and also knew that other clubs wanted him too. The price is simple supply and demand so they charged what they thought they could get away with and we paid it.
The funny thing is, if he does genuinely go on to be world class like many on here claim him to be, the second the Real Madrid's or Barcelona's of this world show him a bit of leg he will be right up it like a rat up a drain pipe since he has form for it. He won't be finishing his career there if he does reach his supposed potential.
So you understand why people will call him vastly overpriced then?
It's massive money for a centre back, but that could soon be the going rate now we have a world record of 200 million for a player. I remember when we signed Ferdinand for 30 million back in 2002 and nobody could believe it. The merits of the fee will only become apparent in time.
True, it's only overpriced when other clubs do it to sign top talent.
Surely you see the irony in being upset by me pointing out hypocrisy, while simultaneously complaining about Klopp being a hypocrite?
Whilst I agree with the points above, no denying he's an excellent PL-proven CB. In terms of £££, well, agreed with the second post re: pay-up or lose-out, as the market seems to be these days.
didn't realise that. that is a lot of coin
Whilst I do think Lukaku was over priced I don't think he's AS over priced as VVD.
I'm not upset about anything. Least of all you pointing up anything. Just asking why did you go into trouble mentioning Mourinho. I get it when Liverpool fans do it, they defend Klopp by every means necessary and usually it's by mentioning Mourinho every time someone mentions their manager. It's just strange when United fans do it too. But as it's you and your work is well knows it's not that surprising.
Yep I see your point, but VVD could be the perfect fit for an obvious hole, which would arguably be better value for money vs 'young + scope' etc etc
Listen, I don't doubt he will improve them and in that respect it's a good signing, however the money involved is beyond ridiculous.
Of course people will say that in the same way they said it about Sheared when he went for £15m to Newcastle or Ferdinand for £30m to Utd or Zindane for £47m. The fee is what it is set down by the selling club. If Liverpool had said "we'll pay £30m and no more", Southampton would have told us exactly where to stick that £30m as they sell VVD to City for the £70m they wanted.
But that isn't his fault; the player has no say on the fee. Ultimately it will depend upon whether he improves Liverpool, especially in the modern EPL, where money is thrown around like confetti.
Do you not see a semblance of difference in the names you're throwing about though?
Until transfers reguarly hit triple-digits in 2/3 years time?
I think we probably rate the player differently.
My thing is you seem fixated on price, when the goalposts have shifted (pardon the pun).
There were plenty fixated on the Pogba fee included Herr Klopp himself. Oddly now Liverpool have done this fees don't really matter that much.
That's their deluded opinion to be had, I'm sure in hindsight they'd now think differently (and in the case of Klopp publicly so).
I think he’s worth more than £35-40 million in the current market.
I didn’t have an issue with Pogba’s fee personally.
this is something lionel Hutz from the Simpsons would say. I hear his voice reading that quote
Is Kyle Walker's fee relevant?
Lukaku does that to himself.
It's just passion (wo)man.
Exactly. That extra £20/£25 million is probably panic. From that perspective we did over pay but I think he’s a very good player and makes us stronger at CB than we were.
Come on. His birthday is 8 July 1991. How can you claim he is almost 27. Why not just round it up to say he is almost 30 to fit your no potential argument. For a defender, 26 is very young.
Or you could say you broke the record for most expensive CB by 50%.
are saying klopp has spent 217 milns when keita is still playing for lapzig and vvd is still in Southampton shirt? By that mean pep, kante, and mourinho would easily cross 400miln if we add their future signings. Can you really comapare?
A quick google indicates Pogba’s transfer was €105m euros with €5m euros in addons which actually comes out at £97m pounds at the current exchange rate.
Taken at face value .. yes, I agree. When considering what has happened with the market, it could considered disputable. However it was 18 months ago and people's opinions are allowed to change, if you asked him today I've no doubt his opinion wouldn't be the same on what constitutes an excessive fee since so much has changed ... and he would almost certainly regret making that statement back then.
It's called 'deflecting' and I'm loving it ! Let's keep up the attacks on Mourinho !!
