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They definitely won't throw it.
The fans might care more about Liverpool winning the league, but Ole and the players will be far more concerned about their own goal.
Will be a weird day for United fans, I've heard some on here say they'd happily miss out on top four as long as Liverpool don't win the league, not sure if that's a majority though.
I know, I know.You filthy animal.
I agree. I think Solskjaer despises us. It'll depend on the situation at hand but if you can afford to lose you'll throw the towel beforehand imo.
Losing against City may or may not affect United's chances of finishing in the top four but it undoubtedly will affect the outcome of the title race. Liverpool aren't going away despite what their current less than impressive form suggests. I expect them to raise their game as the season draws to a close - the front three especially.
Both Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will continue to drop points over the coming weeks, just as they have all season long, so we could effectively throw the City game and make up the difference in the four remaining ones. Throwing away 3 points is a risky proposition any way you slice it but I think it's an acceptable one all things considered.
I realize this may be an unpopular opinion.
You couldn't really complain could you?I agree. I think Solskjaer despises us. It'll depend on the situation at hand but if you can afford to lose you'll throw the towel beforehand imo.
No of course not, I already said earlier I wouldn't even be mad and would want us to do the same thing if the roles were reversed. But it could be Sophie's choice if you still need all three points come the derby.You couldn't really complain could you?
I still remember Liverpool's "effort" against Chelsea in 2010.
He's auditioning for the job. He's not gonna throw in the towel for a derby purely to spite Liverpool.I agree. I think Solskjaer despises us. It'll depend on the situation at hand but if you can afford to lose you'll throw the towel beforehand imo.
How exactly did he cheat?"A little break"? He lost three Bundesliga in a row in spectacular fashion. First by 25 points, then 19, then by 33. He cheated the league for two seasons with his gimmick Gegenpress (which I'm sure was a really smart trick back in 2011), then the other managers caught on and that was that. He even had a little meltdown and went on a Keegan like rant about how Bayern were "copying" his tactics like "the Chinese".
He's on his fourth season with Liverpool now and this is the first time he's even close to challenging. Four years is short term? That's longer than Pep's entire Barca spell ffs. If he doesn't pull it off now, that's half a decade. Almost a dynasty.
I really cant see him / us doing this.I agree. I think Solskjaer despises us. It'll depend on the situation at hand but if you can afford to lose you'll throw the towel beforehand imo.
Haven't you heard, Olly's gone https://www.redcafe.net/threads/olly-gunnar-solskjaer-2018-2019-performances.445417/
I don’t think it’s as black and white as that though.As a club I don't think we'd be all that happy to see a manager go three years without a trophy, that simply wouldn't be good enough. But expectations are different.
He's only human, fcuk sake.I agree. I think Solskjaer despises us. It'll depend on the situation at hand but if you can afford to lose you'll throw the towel beforehand imo.
As much as i would hate the sight of henderson and klopp lifting the trophy, i would be extremely frustrated to see us losing on purpose or not giving our best. I don't want to see our fans celebrating a loss like you lot did after gifting chelsea the game in 2010. I hope we give our best against city and beat them. Having said that I do think they will beat us or draw, cannot see us beating them. Predicting a draw.I wouldn't even be mad if they throw the game against City. I know I would want us to do the same thing rather than help United win another title.
It's good that they still have top 4 to play for otherwise I wouldn't have a doubt in my mind that they'd gift City the win.
They aren't invincible.They've lost 4 games to teams we've beaten of lateAs much as i would hate the sight of henderson and klopp lifting the trophy, i would be extremely frustrated to see us losing on purpose or not giving our best. I don't want to see our fans celebrating a loss like you lot did after gifting chelsea the game in 2010. I hope we give our best against city and beat them. Having said that I do think they will beat us or draw, cannot see us beating them. Predicting a draw.
Never said they are invincible but they are class better than us and I don't see us beating them.They aren't invincible.They've lost 4 games to teams we've beaten of late
I've seen that said for at least 4 games under Ole.Never said they are invincible but they are class better than us and I don't see us beating them.
Gary Nevile quoted in his book that the academy players of Liverpool were telling the Utd academy players that there is no way Liverpool will beat Chelsea so Utd can win the league in 2010. They were right!As much as i would hate the sight of henderson and klopp lifting the trophy, i would be extremely frustrated to see us losing on purpose or not giving our best. I don't want to see our fans celebrating a loss like you lot did after gifting chelsea the game in 2010. I hope we give our best against city and beat them. Having said that I do think they will beat us or draw, cannot see us beating them. Predicting a draw.
Bloody he’ll I’ve got to read that thread now to see what it’s all about, sodding knee kickers.Haven't you heard, Olly's gone https://www.redcafe.net/threads/olly-gunnar-solskjaer-2018-2019-performances.445417/
Oh yeah, I love Liverpool me! All my many posts desperately supporting City (a club I despise) in the title race against them are just for kicks.News flash @SquishyMcSquish. Ed Woodward offered Klopp the United job which he declined. Him managing Liverpool was his own choice and for his own good. He cannot handle the pressure of instant success and the egos that come with massive transfers (signing Pogba to put him on the bench for a workhorse midfielder would be textbook Klopp, Mourinho made Pogba undroppable for 1.5 seasons and still got the boot when he started benching him).
Unless you are a closet Liverpool fan, who thinks Klopp turned down huge spending and multiple trophies just so he could manage Liverpool. Liverpool fans love to think of themselves as so special that a manager would do anything to manage them.
The implication of 'he only manages Dortmund and Liverpool' is that he would do better at a club with less restrictions which is practically proven false with Klopp turning down a club with less restrictions.Oh yeah, I love Liverpool me! All my many posts desperately supporting City (a club I despise) in the title race against them are just for kicks.
Maybe he can't, who knows? I'm not in Jurgen Klopp's head, I don't know why he potentially turned down the United job, all I know is that he's done great work at both Dortmund and Liverpool. Maybe he is a manager who needs time to get his project going, in which case it makes sense to target the sort of club he feels will give him that, I don't view it as a negative. Pretty much all managers cherry pick clubs they think they'll be a success at, look at Guardiola's choices of where to manage, sure he has pressure of 'instant success' but he's also managed some of the best squads in world football.
Personally I do think Klopp is a bit of a romantic at heart and liked the idea of a club like Liverpool, bit of a fallen giant, I do think he favours the underdog type of side. Regardless of that my view is that he is an elite coach with few better than him in world football, I don't believe anybody could really have done better at Dortmund or Liverpool than he has. You don't have to agree with that, some people judge managers on different things, so for some purists on here if Klopp doesn't win the league he will be a failure at Liverpool.
If it’d potentially cost us CL qualification?I wouldn't even be mad if they throw the game against City. I know I would want us to do the same thing rather than help United win another title.
It's good that they still have top 4 to play for otherwise I wouldn't have a doubt in my mind that they'd gift City the win.
Right come on then, set up a new thread and a poll.They definitely won't throw it.
The fans might care more about Liverpool winning the league, but Ole and the players will be far more concerned about their own goal.
Will be a weird day for United fans, I've heard some on here say they'd happily miss out on top four as long as Liverpool don't win the league, not sure if that's a majority though.
Must admit, this seems like some strange logic. Why does choosing Liverpool over United prove that he would not succeed at a "better" club? It only means he preferred to manage Liverpool, for whatever reason. Likewise, I don't how you can deduce that he chose Liverpool as he felt that it represented a better chance of success. There's myriad factors we wouldn't know about, for instance which club made the most effort to sign him and made him feel the most wanted. For all we know United tentatively approached him while Liverpool went all out to convince him that he was the manager they wanted and no one else.The implication of 'he only manages Dortmund and Liverpool' is that he would do better at a club with less restrictions which is practically proven false with Klopp turning down a club with less restrictions.
A long time acquaintance of Klopp from Mainz said that Klopp's dream team to manage in England would be Manchester United. The only logical explanation is that he chose Liverpool because that was his highest chance of success.
Actually we do know that. Woodward viewed Klopp in very high regard and sounded him out personally (said he could manage adult Disneyland ), he especially liked the low wage bill Dortmund had and was no doubt licking his chops at the financial miracles Klopp could accomplish.Must admit, this seems like some strange logic. Why does choosing Liverpool over United prove that he would not succeed at a "better" club? It only means he preferred to manage Liverpool, for whatever reason. Likewise, I don't how you can deduce that he chose Liverpool as he felt that it represented a better chance of success. There's myriad factors we wouldn't know about, for instance which club made the most effort to sign him and made him feel the most wanted. For all we know United tentatively approached him while Liverpool went all out to convince him that he was the manager they wanted and no one else.