Good point. He probably had a good run of good form for a couple of months.
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Del Bosque are you watching?Aduriz with a hat-trick meanwhile apparently. Looking forward to the highlights of that game.
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No, you were not getting at that at all
).He might be busy scouting Borja Mayoral, 90 minutes in 1st division, 1 goal? Kid has better chances of going to the Euro than Aduriz
Definitely his best win imo.Gary's tenure so far has been really strange. Quite a few games where they probably deserved more but were unlucky to lose or drop pts; then a lot of the games they won where they didn't really deserve it and were lucky to win - case in point, Kameni's gift in this game (
Beating Espanyol at home was a must, beating Granada away and destroying Rapid Wien over both legs were pleasant yet plausible surprises, but beating this Málaga side at La Rosaleda is no mean feat.
Sadly you're right.
Who or what is he moaning about after the goal?
Can you point me to where i said that in this thread? You were the one to bring in Mourinho. For the record i much prefer Simeone to Mourinho.No, you were not getting at that at all
He hasn't scored though? Unless some sources are giving him the own-goal in tonight's game v Levante?
No idea. It was almost as funny as the goal. No one even touched him.
No, amol brought up Mourinho and said that Simeone had done the most out of all managers in the last 5 years. I disagreed and you took up amol's argument. What else were you arguing?
Just that you were questioning Simeone's credentials or rather doubting his success because of players he didn't buy, something along those lines and that Mourinho had proved himself over in multiple facets. Felt like you were undermining Simeone's achievements and 'bigging' up Mourinho at the same time.
I feel he has yet to prove himself in the market. His backbone has been great throughout but the player turnover has been huge. Close to 10 players in and out every season and many players don't last long. Maybe he's just ruthless with player that don't cut it straight away or something or there's someone buying players he's not fond of.
I don't think cleverness in the market is nearly as important in judging a manager's credentials. Managers are never in full control of transfers these days and definitely not at Atletico. Simeone has the 'pull'. A lot of players have said they wanted to work with him so joined Atletico but apart from that he only plays a part in transfers. It seems clear from his interviews also, the only absolutes he has placed on the board is that they must not sell Godin and Koke. The most important thing i think is to get the players you have working as a unit and to their utmost potential.
That's really my point. The players that are still doing the business for him today are pretty much all the same players he started out with. HG talent like Torres and Saul have filled in the gaps nicely, Gimenez was a great buy, Oblak a solid replacement for Courtois and Carrasco has shown decent things this season. Griezmann is of course great but he's been great under several managers in La Liga. The other 20+ players Atlético have bought haven't faired as well. Godin, Miranda, Juanfran, Filipe, Gabi, Tiago, Koke are the players that have been the very important backbone in his tenure. Very little rotation in the back 4 and the 2 in front of them this whole time apart from that Luis-less season.
They are second in the league and in the KO stages of CL. They are doing fine. Look at the average cost of transfers. Not like they buy world class players. Mourinho taking Chelsea to relegation zone and Moyes flopping at United shows how difficult it is just to maintain a certain level nevermind compete for trophies every year. I don't think there are many managers who can do what Simeone is doing at Atletico.
They're doing better than fine but that's down to their phenomenal defense. Their attacking football has been very poor this season.
Exactly. Especially considering the average cost of transfers. Hence Simeone is doing a great job. Offensively they need improvement but overall he's doing great.
Yeah, it's just fair Lucho gives a hungry Sergi Roberto the minutes both Alves and Aleix waste every game
Harsh.
For me Roberto's most impressive games came from wide positions (RB as well as RM/RW against Madrid). As a midfielder I think he failed to impress. He has a great burst of acceleration but his touches and passing let him down too often. He also looked fairly lost in Busquets' role before getting subbed off a few matchdays ago. I think he should stay at RB and Aleix was an unnecessary signing, although admittedly no one could have expected Roberto to play that role so well.
I realize it's early and certainly too soon to write a player off after 2 months but I've seen a player who does not possess great defensive attributes - he may ultimately provide good offensive ones but overall he's a backup, for me
Nah, he looks like your average run-of-the-mill pace+run winger-converted-into-a-defender. He hasn't even faced elite teams yet and already looks shaky. Should play as a substitute winger while Roberto takes the RB spot after Alves.
We don't have a player that could cover our entire left wing, rather hope the 3-4-3 doesn't become a thing
He wasn't expected to be a starter anyway. He's been a bit shaky lately, but I remember solid performances all around in the first month.
With Rafinha out for most (if not all?) of the season his signing has become more important. He (Rafinha) was the one who was playing in the forward positions whilst Neymar was ill at the beginning of the season, though Enrique has clearly decided to give more chances to Munir over Sandro in the second half of the season.
I think it was more the safe option as Alves was almost out of the team until the last minute turn of events
