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The pile on has started, rally the troops.
Everyone gets so defensive and militant so quickly, it's fecking ridiculous.
Seriously what did you expect to happen ?
The pile on has started, rally the troops.
Everyone gets so defensive and militant so quickly, it's fecking ridiculous.
The pile on has started, rally the troops.
Dunno what to tell you tbh.Seriously what did you expect to happen ?
Oh, probably a lot more than I would want her to know, I'm not deluding myself about that.Though in regards to finding it too early to talk to your ten year old about anything to do with sex, how much do you suspect your ten year old (and those in her class) already know?
I don't think I'm trying to protect her from anything either, it's just my own conservative upbringing that trickles down I guess.I'm genuinely not sure what avoiding a talk on the issue at ten years old is actually protecting them from?
Oh, probably a lot more than I would want her to know, I'm not deluding myself about that.
I don't think I'm trying to protect her from anything either, it's just my own conservative upbringing that trickles down I guess.
But I grew up a fine individual, right guys? So I don't think she'll have many problems either in spite of this.
Holy shit, this thread is like the virtue signaling olympics.
Nothing for you, same as you probably wouldn't see a problem in teaching kids about sex at a pretty early age.
The irony of it all is that they are supposed to be the most open minded people but they can't seem to get their head around the fact that there's people with different opinions on these issues.
Everyone gets so defensive and militant so quickly, it's fecking ridiculous.
I can see both sides, even though my opinion itself is not sat on the fence. I don’t see anything inherently wrong with making children aware that other relationships exist at a young age, nor do I see anything wrong with letting young kids know that it’s ok to want to wear a dress or do things outside the norms of your biological sex. Those things at a basic level can only do good, and I’ll bet there’s a lot of people reaching adulthood now who wish they’d had access to that sort of reassurance when they were starting out. I certainly wouldn’t align myself with the people who say “what next? Teaching them how to finger properly?”. There’s no actual sex education going on for kids younger than about 10 as far as I’m aware, and I don’t think there’s going to be anytime soon, and as long as it’s kept that way I don’t really see an issue.
However, I definitely see a certain amount of virtue signalling going on too. And no, I don’t think you’re automatically in bed with Ben Shapiro if you use that term, but you can hold your opinion and espouse it without shitting on the guy who came before. For some reason if you aren’t as progressive as the next guy then you’re labelled a dinosaur, or someone who doesn’t know how to raise their kids properly. I mean, does it really need to be that polarised? Surely there are some shades of grey. But no, apparently everyone who isn’t up to their speed is a degenerate 1950s throwback, cursing the gays whilst raising the next congregation of the Westborough Baptist Church.
Have you learnt nothing from my posts in here? Half of the things I go about in anything is wrong, and that's being generous! Never claimed I'm without fault.My gang mates have already pointed out the irony here. But if you wanted a proper discourse maybe the way you went about it was wrong.
That would be a weird thing to point out, no? Just like it would be weird to just point out a heterosexual couple.
So I'm not sure where you are going with this, mate.
Have you learnt nothing from my posts in here? Half of the things I go about in anything is wrong, and that's being generous! Never claimed I'm without fault.
What makes it worse is that I hadn't even watched the clip in the OP. I'm like that guy who doesn't like that Joker film.
The thought alone makes me shiver tbh. I'm afraid that will be a talk for the missus, which I'm sure she'll be having soon enough.
Oh ok. No, not really. I don't think she finds it even strange or anything. It's all normal for kids growing up nowadays, like it should be too.Disclaimer: I don't have any kids and I go out of my way to avoid them so I concede the probability that I don't know what the feck I'm talking about.
Disclaimer2: I grew up in very conservative settings and times so the idea of non-hetero couples did not register to me until probably high school.
That said, I was just wondering if at that age, children notice differences from the norm that is usually in front of them. I was raised by a dad and a mom so that was the norm for me. If I saw 2 guys holding hands on TV, maybe I would point that out as interesting? And in recent years with advances in gay right I think the odds of seeing such couples would increase. I was just asking you, an actual parent, if any of that has occurred with you and your daughter.
Oh ok. No, not really. I don't think she finds it even strange or anything. It's all normal for kids growing up nowadays, like it should be too.
I think even kids that grow up in religious homes nowadays are more accepting than a few decades ago, but I could be wrong.
There’s a teacher I think in this thread suggesting kids should be taught where babies come from or how they’re made in year 5 or 6 (I disagree with that) I think that obviously has to talk about sex, unless they mean tell them the stalk story. So I can see where people are getting confuse with the age appropriate thing.
Nothing for you, same as you probably wouldn't see a problem in teaching kids about sex at a pretty early age.
My daughter is 10 now, and both my missus and me still find it way too early to talk about anything sex-related. Which I'm sure most people in this thread will find ridiculous and old fashioned.
Thing is though, not everyone is as progressive as the people of northern europe and the US.
The irony of it all is that they are supposed to be the most open minded people but they can't seem to get their head around the fact that there's people with different opinions on these issues.
Everyone gets so defensive and militant so quickly, it's fecking ridiculous.
Your correct that there are lots of people who aren't as progressive as some on here but you can't be calling other posters fecking bonkers for no reason and expect it not to cause a bit of a pile on.Dunno what to tell you tbh.
But I talk about Pokemon and silly phone apps and I'm 26.People talk about sex age 8? You wot? No they fecking don't. Well, not where Im from at least.
They talk about Pokemon and some silly new phone app that makes videos.
I thought we were just starting to get somewhere - but as you like it.@Synco actually let's not derail the thread any further. It's going no where.
Apologies if I didn't make my point clearly.
But I talk about Pokemon and silly phone apps and I'm 26.
If a stork is not involved, I'm not interested.Don’t worry, one day we’ll all sit down and tell you about how when mummy and daddy love each other very much, babies are made.
how to get a gay boyfriend and bum them and how to use Grindr obviously
I'll indulge you @Cascarino; What's wrong with not wanting to pollute young kids' brains with sex at an age you don't find it appropriate yet? Not everyone is as progressive as the gang who piled on on Raess in this thread you know?
You seem to have a problem with the word virtue signaling but not much when words like bigot or homophobe are easily thrown around for people having a different opinion. How weird.
And before you say or think so, yes, the religious nutjobs who think homosexuality is a sin are even worse.
In a nutshell, you're all fecking bonkers.
Would it be weird for a 40 year old to sit in on these lessons
I'm all about life long learning mate!I figured you'd be giving the lectures
I'm all about life long learning mate!
You can learn a lot from kids man, you really can.A true master of his craft, I doff my cap sir.
You can learn a lot from kids man, you really can.
I'm going to check my little lads browsing history.
I thought we were just starting to get somewhere - but as you like it.
Edit: On a second thought, I have to admit I find it a bit strange. Now that we have finally found a basis that is clear to both and would allow to get to the point, you opt out of the discussion. It's your right and I won't bother you any further, but I can't say I understand it.
Reading this, I don't think you understood what I attempted to say at all. And no idea how you think that's an accurate recount of our exchange.Okay then, seeing as you asked I’ll do you the courtesy.
I made a statement, you said it was homophobic. I asked you as directly as possible why you think that, and your reply was that I’m taking it off topic along with ‘okay let’s talk about racism in Alabama then’. Clearly, that discussion is heading no where.
It’s just gaslighting at this point. To suggest I’m the one taking it off topic is strange, clearly it won’t convince me I’m doing that and nobody else gives a shit.
Reading this, I don't think you understood what I said at all. And no idea how you think that's an accurate recount of our exchange.
Well yes, that's obviously what needs to be done. See, this is what I said this morning, and nothing has changed for me since then:okay, apologies for the misunderstanding
To clarify, I want to know why you think my statement was homophobic.
I honestly don't understand what has happened between that post and now, but it's probably best if we just ignore that and move on. That means I'll try to make my point when I have time and tag you.I feel with your latest post & your commitment to a stance on the "Alabama" example, there's a basis for further discussion for the first time. But I won't have enough time today, because there's quite a bit to disentangle - both regarding our discussion and the subject as such.
Well yes, that's obviously what needs to be done. See, this is what I said this morning, and nothing has changed for me since then:
I honestly don't understand what has happened between that post and now, but it's probably best if we just ignore that and move on. That means I'll try to make my point when I have time and tag you.
Did you even read the post you were just quoting?Its all good - just a misunderstanding. Ultimately though I don't think this is that important to the debate.
I just gave up as it was going no where. My question was on the exact same issue as to why you started quoting me (7 or 8 posts ago and yet I still don't have any answer), why do you think its homophobic? Yet your response was I'm moving the goal-posts.
Bringing racism into it is just dragging it further into the weeds at this point.