ivaldo
Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?
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Oh it's not a given, but generally it's the case.Not convinced football works like this.
For a start, our captain would be at his hypothetical peak right now.
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Oh it's not a given, but generally it's the case.Not convinced football works like this.
For a start, our captain would be at his hypothetical peak right now.
Absolutely. However, although it is very likely that Shaw will continue to improve significantly he doesn't need to. If he were to just maintain his current level for the next 10 years then he will go down as a fantastic servant for the club.Oh it's not a given, but generally it's the case.
100% agree. That goal was 100% Rooney his fault. No way anybody would expect Rooney (who is considered one of our best players) to give the ball away that simple.Just not true. Yeah he was out of position because we got smashed on the counter after just launching our own counter attack for the second. He can't see the future, he didn't know Rooney would piss possession away
I'm glad you're one of those people who can't see a players limitations.Just not true. Yeah he was out of position because we got smashed on the counter after just launching our own counter attack for the second. He can't see the future, he didn't know Rooney would piss possession away
I do see limitations, I don't blame full backs for being in attacking positions when the team is attackingI'm glad you're one of those people who can't see a players limitations.
Unless its Rooney.
especially a formation where the fullbacks start high up the pitch and are meant to get forward.I do see limitations, I don't blame full backs for being in attacking positions when the team is attacking
What does this stands for? I see it a lot but can't make it out.GOAT
Greatest of all time?What does this stands for? I see it a lot but can't make it out.
Greatest of all time.What does this stands for? I see it a lot but can't make it out.
Football does work like that, he not improve in terms of ability but at that age his experience will do the talking. Our captain is coming to the end of the peak period and he had shown bags of experience.Not convinced football works like this.
For a start, our captain would be at his hypothetical peak right now.
Ah, thanksGreatest of all time.
More often than not, I suppose. But I also think that once he turns 28, people will just start referring to his 'experience' because it will be logical to do so, and imply that he's just become mature of late. His game at the moment is not that of an immature defender for me.Football does work like that, he not improve in terms of ability but at that age his experience will do the talking. Our captain is coming to the end of the peak period and he had shown bags of experience.
Not relly, he's outside the norm. The hypothetical peak you speak of is based on an average and the average is that players start playing proper first team football at around 19-21, sometimes even later. Rooney started at 16. He's probably past his physical peak which means he's probably past his best.Not convinced football works like this.
For a start, our captain would be at his hypothetical peak right now.
And Shaw has been playing from a similarly young age, which is partly why I made the point in the first place.Not relly, he's outside the norm. The hypothetical peak you speak of is based on an average and the average is that players start playing proper first team football at around 19-21, sometimes even later. Rooney started at 16. He's probably past his physical peak which means he's probably past his best.
Then his peak is probably 6-7 years away. However Rooney isn't known for taking care of himself as carefully as many other athletes. With him much of his strength and stamina is natural. It's a matter of years how at the top how well you take care of yourself.And Shaw has been playing from a similarly young age, which is partly why I made the point in the first place.
I hope so, but I've heard reliable reports from The Caf that he lacks paceHe really is an excellent player. If he's anything like Cole was for Chelsea in terms of longevity, peak performances and consistency we have made an absolute coup.
It's the year of Luke Shaw, fellas.
he lacks pace
I think that Hoddle highlighted one of his great strengths the other night too, he is so quick on the turn that it give him great recovering capabilities.
I find it hard to believe that Luke Shaw, a LB seems to have more 'freedom' to do things with a ball than a Wayne Rooney. Shaw attacks at will. carries the ball a lot and takes chances. So LVG gives him special privileges? or maybe he is just good and playing well?
Rooney plays all the way at the top, he should be even less worried about losing the ball then shouldnt he?Probably because of our defense minded midfield offers protection for full backs to wander OR Shaw is so fast it doesn't matter if he loses the ball, he'll make it back even with a 20 yard disadvantage
Him or Smalling, definitely. Says a boatload about our attackers.Is he our best outfield player? He's definitely up there.
I love Smalling but Shaw's ability with the ball gives him the edge imo.Him or Smalling, definitely. Says a boatload about our attackers.
Was just saying this as well. His signing is reminiscent of Rio, we paid a lot but it has settled one of the spots in our team for 10-15 years.Is he our best outfield player? He's definitely up there.