Madeleine McCann

langster said:
My deepest sympathies to them but the investigation shouldn't get another penny. It's disgusting how much it has had already in comparison to many other similar cases.

If the McCanns want to they can continue with private detectives. I'm sure they would receive plenty of cash if they set up a GoFund me page. (If they haven't already)
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This is the post I replied to.
I take exception to your use of "disgusting". So I asked what price would you put on it if it was your kid.

You didn't like that, but i'd suggest no amount of money is too much if there's a chance of finding the child.
You then said you were fine if there's new information and leads (I can't see that in your posts), to which I say that's probably what's happening.
 
Sandikan said:
Give me an exact example of a missing child in the last few years then. And what happened?
Otherwise, how can we make anything but generalisations.
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Again - i'm failing to see your point.
Are you suggesting that McCann's story is more deserving than the other 140k kids who go missing each year, because her story is 'interesting'?

Just because a kid goes missing in Dalston and their family have no leads, doesn't mean their family don't deserve answers too.
 
Sandikan said:
This is the post I replied to.
I take exception to your use of "disgusting". So I asked what price would you put on it if it was your kid.

You didn't like that, but i'd suggest no amount of money is too much if there's a chance of finding the child.
You then said you were fine if there's new information and leads (I can't see that in your posts), to which I say that's probably what's happening.
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Every other family with a missing child would feel no amount of money is too much. There isn't a bottomless pit.
 
villain said:
Again - i'm failing to see your point.
Are you suggesting that McCann's story is more deserving than the other 140k kids who go missing each year, because her story is 'interesting'?

Just because a kid goes missing in Dalston and their family have no leads, doesn't mean their family don't deserve answers too.
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It's not a competition. The McCann search isn't using up all of the money.
Do you have any examples of cases that haven't had the right funding? or know for a fact they've not been followed up, when there's obviously been a crime?
 
Rado_N said:
Every other family with a missing child would feel no amount of money is too much. There isn't a bottomless pit.
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Exactly on the first point. But these cases aren't as frequent as others are making out - they are usually wrapped up fairly easily, or found there's no crime to answer. Hence the massive interest round the circumstances on this one.

A different scenario, but other massive interest one was the Jean Benoit Ramsey case. Frustratingly unsolved forever, though like this one, a potential suspect died a long time ago.
 
Rado_N said:
All of them, and tell me why they're less deserving.
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Because they probably had/enough resources on them, which was the formulation of a strategy based on evidence and when weighed against the requirements for funding the McCann case, were deemed not as worthwhile.

Harsh.
 
dumbo said:
And all this after such a huge amount of money, time and focus has been spent on it. Surely the lack of progress after such expense should be a reason to stop funding it rather than continue to pump public money into something with such scant returns
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When all is said and done, the amazing thing is there's still anything to investigate this many years on. I'd love to know what their lines of enquiry are.
 
@Rado_N still waiting for you to tell us another example of a young blonde girl going missing in Portugal when it was 27°c and there was a gentle 4mph north easterly breeze whilst it was simultaneously a full and half moon? Didn't think so.
 
Bubz27 said:
@Rado_N still waiting for you to tell us another example of a young blonde girl going missing in Portugal when it was 27°c and there was a gentle 4mph north easterly breeze whilst it was simultaneously a full and half moon? Didn't think so.
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Jeez man. I know rado has a lot of minions on here but this is taking the biscuit.
 
dumbo said:
And all this after such a huge amount of money, time and focus has been spent on it. Surely the lack of progress after such expense should be a reason to stop funding it rather than continue to pump public money into something with such scant returns
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The line of reasoning for the additional funds is that it’s for a vital last line of enquiry. I’d like to think that there was a thorough decision making process Before providing any of the funds and that it’s done out of the belief that it just might provide more answers than questions.
 
Sandikan said:
It's not a competition. The McCann search isn't using up all of the money.
Do you have any examples of cases that haven't had the right funding? or know for a fact they've not been followed up, when there's obviously been a crime?
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The point is, 11 years on, no closer to solving the crime - why is the McCann search using up any money still?
When do the McCanns, and collectively the rest of us - move on?

There's 1000s of cold cases, 'right funding' is subjective, however £12m is excessive.
Who am I to know if a case hasn't been followed up on, or there's 'obviously' been a crime, unless i'm involved in the case?
None of that is relevant given the main point i'm making is that £12m in total, 11 years on - is excessive.
 
Bubz27 said:
@Rado_N still waiting for you to tell us another example of a young blonde girl going missing in Portugal when it was 27°c and there was a gentle 4mph north easterly breeze whilst it was simultaneously a full and half moon? Didn't think so.
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You've got me there!
 
The same £150k spent on a more recent case is far more likely to lead to some significant progress. I don't think anyone could argue against that.

And is there any other reasonable way to look a this?
 
villain said:
The point is, 11 years on, no closer to solving the crime - why is the McCann search using up any money still?
When do the McCanns, and collectively the rest of us - move on?

There's 1000s of cold cases, 'right funding' is subjective, however £12m is excessive.
Who am I to know if a case hasn't been followed up on, or there's 'obviously' been a crime, unless i'm involved in the case?
None of that is relevant given the main point i'm making is that £12m in total, 11 years on - is excessive.
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It would be fascinating to know what leads there can possibly be this far on.

But while there isn't an unlimited pot, we'd have to see proof that other missing kid stories are being neglected because of this one.
Not every case requires the same funding for one thing.
 
Tarrou said:
The same £150k spent on a more recent case is far more likely to lead to some significant progress. I don't think anyone could argue against that.

And is there any other reasonable way to look a this?
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It doesn't have to be an either / or necessarily.
But we'd need to see what the money was being specifically used for, which we never will.
 
Sandikan said:
It would be fascinating to know what leads there can possibly be this far on.

But while there isn't an unlimited pot, we'd have to see proof that other missing kid stories are being neglected because of this one.
Not every case requires the same funding for one thing.
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Is there any new evidence? Or is this to elongate the investigation further in the hopes of finding evidence?

The funds are commissioned by the Home Office, which has received various budget cuts in the last 10 years or so which has affected policing & wages of first-line responders, Windrush etc. the funding doesn't just affect missing kid stories.
Plus the mother of Ben Needham, arguably the closest case to Madeline's, has said multiple times that the amount that the McCann's has received is unprecedented and she can't understand why they've received so much, given the lack of leads - as well as other cold cases who receive no where near the same amount of funding, could arguably be considered as being neglected in favour of the McCann's.

So like I said, at what point does everybody move on?
 
If they were going to find her they would have by now.

The amount of attention the case received I just can’t believe in this age she’s never been spotted. Surely hospitals have her DNA and can flag a match?.

People saying there’s no evidence but wasn’t there blood in the hotel room and their rental car? And they had both been cleaned with bleach. It all sounds very suspicious.
 
villain said:
The point is, 11 years on, no closer to solving the crime - why is the McCann search using up any money still?
When do the McCanns, and collectively the rest of us - move on?

There's 1000s of cold cases, 'right funding' is subjective, however £12m is excessive.
Who am I to know if a case hasn't been followed up on, or there's 'obviously' been a crime, unless i'm involved in the case?
None of that is relevant given the main point i'm making is that £12m in total, 11 years on - is excessive.
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Well the McCanns will move on when they are dead and not before that . No parent will ever just move on and accept their child went missing at a young age and that's that .

This was a horrible crime and whoever did this in all likelihood did it before and since so any lead should be followed up cold or otherwise
 
lsd said:
Well the McCanns will move on when they are dead and not before that . No parent will ever just move on and accept their child went missing at a young age and that's that .

This was a horrible crime and whoever did this in all likelihood did it before and since so any lead should be followed up cold or otherwise
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Of course, at no point am I trying to disrespect what they've gone through throughout this entire situation.
I'm simply asking at what point does the funding stop, as far as I know - no new leads have been found and this extra funding is to further pursue existing enquiries.
 
villain said:
Of course, at no point am I trying to disrespect what they've gone through throughout this entire situation.
I'm simply asking at what point does the funding stop, as far as I know - no new leads have been found and this extra funding is to further pursue existing enquiries.
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From what I understand it’s supposedly an important “last line” of enquiry that they require the funds for.

Also, apologies if my comment to you earlier came across wrong. Didn’t mean to condescend you, I just never liked that “it’s the taxpayers money” line of reasoning for objecting to something like this.
 
They keep getting more money, which is fine, but I wonder if they are any closer to finding her.

This must be an absolute terror to live with though, not knowing what's happened to your child.
 
Arbitrium said:
From what I understand it’s supposedly an important “last line” of enquiry that they require the funds for.

Also, apologies if my comment to you earlier came across wrong. Didn’t mean to condescend you, I just never liked that “it’s the taxpayers money” line of reasoning for objecting to something like this.
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We've had umpteen 'last line of enquiries' or 'hot new leads" and they're still no closer though.
 
Arbitrium said:
What would the cynical explanation be for them continuing on?
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The high profile nature of the case and public interest. No-one blames the McCanns for wanting the hunt to continue, but is there a realistic chance of ever solving this? Will be still looking for a 40 year old Maddie in 25 years?
 
Jippy said:
The high profile nature of the case and public interest. No-one blames the McCanns for wanting the hunt to continue, but is there a realistic chance of ever solving this? Will be still looking for a 40 year old Maddie in 25 years?
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Surely a lot more gets taken into consideration by the person/s responsible for providing the money though. At the end of the day it’s money from a budget of some variety and has to be justified.
 
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I was also watching an interview earlier with one of the top police officers at the time and he was going to be heading up operations for the case. He said he got told not to bother because they were going to tell him exactly where he could take his investigation and, basically, that he couldn't look at the McCann's as suspects.
 
So.. have they had any decent leads in 11-12 years?
 
Arbitrium said:
Surely a lot more gets taken into consideration by the person/s responsible for providing the money though. At the end of the day it’s money from a budget of some variety and has to be justified.
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I guess no-one wants to be seen as the guy who turned off the taps to the funding of the case, given it's profile.
 
Jippy said:
I guess no-one wants to be seen as the guy who turned off the taps to the funding of the case, given it's profile.
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I imagine we will see the results of that one day. It really is an extraordinary case.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Genuine question, there have probably been many missing persons cases, how come this one gets so much press?
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Beautiful blonde blue-eyed child from a middle-class family disappears without a trace while the good-looking parents are engaged in typically relatable middle-class activities (on holiday at a resort drinking wine with friends).
 
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