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Yeh no problem.I actually just added an edit to my reply. Your initial explanation of Rene's point was actually fair enough. Pogba probably does play better with Hererra in the team than he does without him. I shouldn't really have disagreed.
This.Obviously we have Pogba, who on his day, is one of the best around, in my opinion.
In Herrera, whilst not as good going forward as Vidal, he is just as solid defensively.
What we really lack is a deeplying playmaker. We didn't replace Carrick and it shows.
Players like Verratti, Pjanic, Kroos, Neves, etc could come in and play that role.
If your outlet is Young/Valencia then that is a big part of the problem.Matic, Herrera and Pogba is fine. Problem is our attackers and FBs. If Pogba is locked,we are doing feck all.
Fabinho, Milner,Hendo and Genie is hardly world class but their attack and full back are so perfect that it complement well.
Problem is our CBs too, shite at playing with any ounce of composure.Matic, Herrera and Pogba is fine. Problem is our attackers and FBs. If Pogba is locked,we are doing feck all.
Fabinho, Milner,Hendo and Genie is hardly world class but their attack and full back are so perfect that it complement well.
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Just be perfect with players of that ilk?
Herrera is currently far better than Mctomminay. A few good games from Scott and all of a sudden he's better than Ander? Absolute most reactionary fanbase in the world.Herrera isn't the answer because he's inconsistent himself. We need to focus on signing an upgrade of Herrera and Matic too if affordable. If not McTominay is a good replacement.
You're not wrong. I've been impressed with Shaw this season, so would probably have LB down as not a problem position, when he's available. I also think Lindelof is developing into a decent CB, albeit with some reservations. I'm far less confident about every other fecking position on the pitch!Problem is our CBs too, shite at playing with any ounce of composure.
I actually thinking our midfield is the one ok part of our team, it’s our defence especially that ensures we often get dominated by better sides.
Name a player of his calibre playing with teammates with the level we have here.The actual big problem with Pogba, is that he must be the best player in the world by far, who needs certain other players round him.
Other top world class players make the others better, we seem to constantly have a battle of who to put in around him.
It's not the End of line Rooney argument, but it's along those lines!
Good pointName a player of his calibre playing with teammates with the level we have here.
Pogba is the best midfielder in the world so not possible to name a player of his calibreName a player of his calibre playing with teammates with the level we have here.
Even Scholes said Messi would struggle herePogba is the best midfielder in the world so not possible to name a player of his calibre
Sad thing is that you believe it
He's 26, not young anymore.He was a novice TBF. Remember how young he still is
He’s not even playing like shit, you can still see his class even when he’s having an off game.So, Paul plays alright in Juventus with good players around him.
Paul.plays alright in the France team with good players around him.
Paul plays like shit in Man United with what players around him?
Wake up ffs.
The discontent with Pogba comes from so much of our hope and prayers being utterly reliant on him, and him alone. Because he so much better than everyone else, the scrutiny for every mis-step taken is multiple times higher than it should be or would be in a team with equally able players all tasked to do the job in the team they were recruited for.Good point
Does that post even make sense to you?Pogba is the best midfielder in the world so not possible to name a player of his calibre
Sad thing is that you believe it
26 isn’t young? He joined us when he was 22/23?He's 26, not young anymore.
Oh boy, here come the Messi comparisons. Messi actually dribbles past 3 players and slots it into the bottom corner. Pogba starts a dribble, does a shimmy, loses the ball and waves his hands about.Even Scholes said Messi would struggle here
Just a goal? His average for La Liga and the UCL is ridiculous.Oh boy, here come the Messi comparisons. Messi actually dribbles past 3 players and slots it into the bottom corner. Pogba starts a dribble, does a shimmy, loses the ball and waves his hands about.
Messi could play in the Championship and score a goal a game.
As evidenced by the superfluous performance and output for Argentina vis-a-vis his club side. Right.Oh boy, here come the Messi comparisons. Messi actually dribbles past 3 players and slots it into the bottom corner. Pogba starts a dribble, does a shimmy, loses the ball and waves his hands about.
Messi could play in the Championship and score a goal a game.
I didn't want to go too far, because obviously talents like Messi and Pogba can't play to their normal levels with shite playersJust a goal? His average for La Liga and the UCL is ridiculous.
You're failing at the basics here. International football is not the same as club football. You barely get to train and build patterns, you are going off very little in international football.As evidenced by the superfluous performance and output for Argentina vis-a-vis his club side. Right.
Messi wouldn’t last 10 minutes away to Millwall, mate.Oh boy, here come the Messi comparisons. Messi actually dribbles past 3 players and slots it into the bottom corner. Pogba starts a dribble, does a shimmy, loses the ball and waves his hands about.
Messi could play in the Championship and score a goal a game.
That's not why Messi's output isn't the same. Or are you actually putting forth the contention that it's international football that's the issue, for real?You're failing at the basics here. International football is not the same as club football. You barely get to train and build patterns, you are going off very little in international football.
A championship team that focuses on getting Messi the ball as much as possible would piss the league. He'd easily score a goal a game based on the level of players he is facing.
I was talking about McTominay being a good replacement for Matic. We desperately need to sign someone as an upgrade to Herrera or we’ll just keep getting by on mediocrity.Herrera is currently far better than Mctomminay. A few good games from Scott and all of a sudden he's better than Ander? Absolute most reactionary fanbase in the world.
I remember when Januzaj was going to tear it up too.
It's quite harsh to say that. All he really needs is a functional midfield, and he can play his part in that. But he can't do it all by himself which is basically what he's been expected to do since we signed him.The problem is Pogba needs the midfield built around him so he can fully show his worth. The problem with that is he might up and feck off any summer, so what’s the point
Remember though that Pirlo and Vidal left a season earlier than Pogba, and from my understanding that last season without them was his best.The midfield at Juventus was never built around Pogba nor was the midfield for France.
The Juventus midfield was built around Pirlo and Vidal. Pogba and Marchisio just complemented it really well.
Let's not also forget how much easier a composed and dominant ball playing back 4 make life for any midfielder. That Juventus side had Bonucci and Chiellini, Evra... oh and they had Tevez up top.The midfield at Juventus was never built around Pogba nor was the midfield for France.
The Juventus midfield was built around Pirlo and Vidal. Pogba and Marchisio just complemented it really well.
McTominay's best games have generally been when he's been playing more of the Herrera role, rather than the Matic role. It's Matic that we desperately need to replace ASAP as his legs are gone defensively and he's not good enough when on the ball to compensate. If we do that properly we can go another year with Herrera/McTominay (maybe Fred?) giving us the work horse in the midfield.I was talking about McTominay being a good replacement for Matic. We desperately need to sign someone as an upgrade to Herrera or we’ll just keep getting by on mediocrity.