This is the same manager who benched a club legend Casillas. Nothing is impossible with Jose and no-one is afforded any special privileges.
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It's a statistical fact (and we know you like them) that we win more matches with Pogba in the side, is it not?
Even avoiding stats, as I generally don't like them, we both know that playing Pogba in our first team makes us a better football team. I mean, that's more or less irrefutable?
Unless you let a couple of weeks change your mind.
True.
Can't argue with the points being made about Pogba on BT. Needs to add more defensive responsibility to his game, especially in a two.
Yup, definitely reads like Mourinho being pissed at him for not giving 100% to playing every game and him thinking he can pick and choose games he'll play in. Serves him right tbh. Mourinho wouldn't say the "by his own decision" part if he didn't pull out sick at the last minute.
That didn't work out for him.
Reading out twitter ... the state of our fanbase is embarrassing. We are united fc not pogba fc , pogba hasn't play well to deserve a start either
I’m taking a recent shit performance - away from home - into account, for obvious reasons. Maybe Sevilla has someone as good as Jonjo Shelvey in their team?
Herrera has?
Pogba seems the type of player who wants to play every game. I can't him pulling out of a match if he wasn't sick. There are issues with him, but he has always been a professional.
The manager on the other hand, loves drama and making an example out his star players. He created drama with Hazard recently.
So do we think it will all blow over? Jose and Pogba go back to being bff's again or you think this has the potential for civil war?
To be fair, if Pogba is making himself unavailable for matches, he needs to be punished.
I don't care how talented a player it, a coach is finished once he allows that kind of thing stand.
I don't care how talented a player it, a coach is finished once he allows that kind of thing stand.
Exactly. He picked a fight with several important players at Real Madrid and had to leave at the end. He hasn't really learnt his lessons has he?
You're skirting this a little. You and I both know that we're a weaker team tonight with Pogba on the bench. Hopefully we don't need him in this instance, but long term we're going to.
That was Real.
If anyone thinks Mctominay should start over a out of form pogba then sorry, you know nothing about football. Just remember how bad mctominay was last week!
There’s only going to be one winner here, and it’s not going to be Pogba.
Nor, in that case, is it going to be Man Utd. But to be honest, he doesn’t look bothered when he plays, and that was last season too. Strolling around the pitch. He’s not Ronaldo ffs, who often neglected his defensive duties but would score or produce something to win us the game. He needs to grow the feck up regardless of whether these stories are true.
Nor, in that case, is it going to be Man Utd. But to be honest, he doesn’t look bothered when he plays, and that was last season too. Strolling around the pitch. He’s not Ronaldo ffs, who often neglected his defensive duties but would score or produce something to win us the game. He needs to grow the feck up regardless of whether these stories are true.
Could go the other way, with some thinking it’s José FC. Pogba might be off it recently but there’s not a chance McTominay or Herrera have played any better. Seems like he’s making a point, and I’m not sure the away leg of a European Cup game is the place.
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I’d bet everything that Pogba outlasts Mourinho.
Yeah I have no idea how a player who achieved as much as Pogba has at a young age suddenly lacks "mentality".
They are both incredibly stubborn, so no, this will not end before one of them leave.
I think a lot of will depend on how we play tonight, if we win and bring him back on the weekend then it's good again I reckon. If we play poorly and get beat then the drama goes up a level.
And get rid of rooney. Pogba is nothing compared to the people he has benched before, other than costing us the most money & dancing in dressing room
Guy is spanish , he knows sevilla better. Mou put him for tactical purpose & put mctominay instead of pogba to send a message. "See , if you didn't want to do what i am telling you , you are on the bench"
Don't tell me Fergie never did so. He did that all the time to one of our best player , no one slating him due to the amount of trophies he has won
A coach? The club tbh. Look at the player power at Chelsea et al.
Pogba is anything but stubborn; he is a people's person that is friends with virtually everyone at the top of football. You'll be hard pressed to find someone that dislikes Pogba.
Mourinho on the other hand is a polarizing person; some believe he is an amazing personality and others believe he is an evil person.
Not watch the Huddersfield game?
Why is it you think Pogba is stubborn? I'm not saying he isn't but I didn't think we had much evidence to go on at this stage?
Haven't read a lot of reactions yet, but I'm sure a lot of our "top" fans are already arguing why it makes sense to start Scott McTominay over Pogba in a game like this.
I just hope we feck Mourinho off befoire he costs us Pogba, I'd rather we built a team around Pogba than in the image of what Jose thinks football should be.
I think I'm rather tellingly unmoved by his absence. As is I wouldn't have been at all surprised if Pogba had started and put in an underwhelming performance. That seems to be where head is at right now, which isn't a good vibe for a key player to be giving off.
Will McTominay be better tonight? Probably not. Something needs to jolt more out of Pogba though and maybe being benched will do just that.
Will McTominay be better tonight? Probably not. Something needs to jolt more out of Pogba though and maybe being benched will do just that.
Massive call for Jose tonight - lets see how it works out.
Please don't tell me you're using that as proof that we don't need Pogba.
His attitude has been wrong since day one of the return. About time he has been let know.
Time for him to start walking the walk on a consistent basis, and to stop going missing in the biggest games. Happy for him to sit out a few games until it hits home.
Time for him to start walking the walk on a consistent basis, and to stop going missing in the biggest games. Happy for him to sit out a few games until it hits home.
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yep - also allows Jose to play a more defensive team and not face criticism
Also is Herrera RW? Assume he will tuck in
We definitely need him long term. That’s true. I don’t know what the feck is going on with him but he’s obviously acting the bollox and definitely could be a liability tonight. He got dropped, played so bad in the next game it almost looked like sabotage, then pulled a last-minute sickie for the next game. This is not normal behaviour -and looks dodgy as feck. He clearly needs to sort his head out and we may not be able to risk playing him until that’s happened.
Correct call to put him on the bench. He obviously has thrown his toys out of the pram, pulled a sickie and made a miracle recovery. Needs to buck up his attitude quickly
He is been deploy to play where he not his best suit. I don't understand why people are blaming him this hard. Blame him if he not pulling his weight in his natural position. Someone said it when Mourinho joined utd that will be a cancer to utd, well we have started to see the symptoms.
I hope he get it right, but am not holding my breath due to his history.
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Both are completely different players. Even a world class winger won't be able to do anything with a shite midfield behind him
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