Canagel
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This is the same manager who benched a club legend Casillas. Nothing is impossible with Jose and no-one is afforded any special privileges.
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It's a statistical fact (and we know you like them) that we win more matches with Pogba in the side, is it not?Didn’t catch the Newcastle game?
True.Anyone who’s ever pulled a sickie knows full well you have to pretend you’re “gutted” to be stuck at home watching Netflix.
Yup, definitely reads like Mourinho being pissed at him for not giving 100% to playing every game and him thinking he can pick and choose games he'll play in. Serves him right tbh. Mourinho wouldn't say the "by his own decision" part if he didn't pull out sick at the last minute.Jaysus. Hard to read that as anything other than Pogba being punished for pulling a last-minute sickie.
To be honest, if he really did pull a sickie because he was butt-hurt about being dropped (which is a nagging doubt I’ve had since then) then I’m all on board with him being benched. If we end up with galacticos picking and choosing their fixtures we really are fecked.
That didn't work out for him.This is the same manager who benched a club legend Casillas. Nothing is impossible with Jose and no-one is afforded any special privileges.
I’m taking a recent shit performance - away from home - into account, for obvious reasons. Maybe Sevilla has someone as good as Jonjo Shelvey in their team?It's a statistical fact (and we know you like them) that we win more matches with Pogba in the side, is it not?
Even avoiding stats, as I generally don't like them, we both know that playing Pogba in our first team makes us a better football team. I mean, that's more or less irrefutable?
Unless you let a couple of weeks change your mind.
Herrera has?Reading out twitter ... the state of our fanbase is embarrassing. We are united fc not pogba fc , pogba hasn't play well to deserve a start either
Pogba seems the type of player who wants to play every game. I can't him pulling out of a match if he wasn't sick. There are issues with him, but he has always been a professional.Anyone who’s ever pulled a sickie knows full well you have to pretend you’re “gutted” to be stuck at home watching Netflix.
Exactly. He picked a fight with several important players at Real Madrid and had to leave at the end. He hasn't really learnt his lessons has he?That didn't work out for him.
You're skirting this a little. You and I both know that we're a weaker team tonight with Pogba on the bench. Hopefully we don't need him in this instance, but long term we're going to.I’m taking a recent shit performance - away from home - into account, for obvious reasons. Maybe Sevilla has someone as good as Jonjo Shelvey in their team?
That was Real.That didn't work out for him.
Could go the other way, with some thinking it’s José FC. Pogba might be off it recently but there’s not a chance McTominay or Herrera have played any better. Seems like he’s making a point, and I’m not sure the away leg of a European Cup game is the place.Reading out twitter ... the state of our fanbase is embarrassing. We are united fc not pogba fc , pogba hasn't play well to deserve a start either
Yeah I have no idea how a player who achieved as much as Pogba has at a young age suddenly lacks "mentality".Pogba seems the type of player who wants to play every game. I can't him pulling out of a match if he wasn't sick. There are issues with him, but he has always been a professional.
The manager on the other hand, loves drama and making an example out his star players. He created drama with Hazard recently.
They are both incredibly stubborn, so no, this will not end before one of them leave.So do we think it will all blow over? Jose and Pogba go back to being bff's again or you think this has the potential for civil war?
I think a lot of will depend on how we play tonight, if we win and bring him back on the weekend then it's good again I reckon. If we play poorly and get beat then the drama goes up a level.So do we think it will all blow over? Jose and Pogba go back to being bff's again or you think this has the potential for civil war?
And get rid of rooney. Pogba is nothing compared to the people he has benched before, other than costing us the most money & dancing in dressing roomThat didn't work out for him.
Guy is spanish , he knows sevilla better. Mou put him for tactical purpose & put mctominay instead of pogba to send a message. "See , if you didn't want to do what i am telling you , you are on the bench"Herrera has?
Yeah Pogba also has Riola behind him.They are both incredibly stubborn, so no, this will not end before one of them leave.
That's my thinking as well.I think a lot of will depend on how we play tonight, if we win and bring him back on the weekend then it's good again I reckon. If we play poorly and get beat then the drama goes up a level.
A coach? The club tbh. Look at the player power at Chelsea et al.To be fair, if Pogba is making himself unavailable for matches, he needs to be punished.
I don't care how talented a player it, a coach is finished once he allows that kind of thing stand.
Pogba is anything but stubborn; he is a people's person that is friends with virtually everyone at the top of football. You'll be hard pressed to find someone that dislikes Pogba.They are both incredibly stubborn, so no, this will not end before one of them leave.
Not watch the Huddersfield game?We're less likely to win football matches with Pogba not in the team. That's a fact.
Any piss about sending a message is exactly that. Piss.
Why is it you think Pogba is stubborn? I'm not saying he isn't but I didn't think we had much evidence to go on at this stage?They are both incredibly stubborn, so no, this will not end before one of them leave.
Please don't tell me you're using that as proof that we don't need Pogba.Not watch the Huddersfield game?
ControversialI just hope we feck Mourinho off befoire he costs us Pogba, I'd rather we built a team around Pogba than in the image of what Jose thinks football should be.
yep - also allows Jose to play a more defensive team and not face criticismResting him for a league thats already over and a top 4 that’s basically secured VS a tough champions league away knock out fixture???
We definitely need him long term. That’s true. I don’t know what the feck is going on with him but he’s obviously acting the bollox and definitely could be a liability tonight. He got dropped, played so bad in the next game it almost looked like sabotage, then pulled a last-minute sickie for the next game. This is not normal behaviour -and looks dodgy as feck. He clearly needs to sort his head out and we may not be able to risk playing him until that’s happened.You're skirting this a little. You and I both know that we're a weaker team tonight with Pogba on the bench. Hopefully we don't need him in this instance, but long term we're going to.
He is been deploy to play where he not his best suit. I don't understand why people are blaming him this hard. Blame him if he not pulling his weight in his natural position. Someone said it when Mourinho joined utd that will be a cancer to utd, well we have started to see the symptoms.His attitude has been wrong since day one of the return. About time he has been let know.
Time for him to start walking the walk on a consistent basis, and to stop going missing in the biggest games. Happy for him to sit out a few games until it hits home.
Both are completely different players. Even a world class winger won't be able to do anything with a shite midfield behind himSanchez is our best player and it's clear from the games he has played for us. He gives us the creativity of Pogba with a far greater work rate and goal threat.
Correct call to put him on the bench. He obviously has thrown his toys out of the pram, pulled a sickie and made a miracle recovery. Needs to buck up his attitude quickly