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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Red cards
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Looks pretty happy now. Back to posting a lot of United related stuff on his social media again too, whereas he was fairly quiet in between international breaks, aside from the Adidas and family stuff.
Wouldn't be against giving him back the armband. It seemed a bit petty to give him it and then taken it away in the first place.
Wouldn't be against giving him back the armband. It seemed a bit petty to give him it and then taken it away in the first place.
I disagree, but not going to go essay for essay right now.
Almost forgot about this. Another extremely bizarre thing to have done, especially after the world cup 'compliments' to Pogba as well.
We should actually be grateful that he didn't openly revolt and demanded to be sold or something.
As I said as soon as Jose left, give him back the armband.
No exaggeration when I say he has all the ability to be the best midfielder in the world.
Exceptional performance yesterday
This isn’t a personal criticism, but is there any reason such a particularly archaic and uncommonly used word is absolutely everywhere on a football forum?What a player. To think the acolytes wanted the likes of him and Martial sold is bloody hilarious
Seems like some sort of collective pseudo intelligence or something.
Terrible reply to be honest. What are you on about transforming Jones, Fellaini etc.? Since when is that the main criteria of a good footballer i.e. changing shit players around him into good ones? You’re just being silly. What are you on about this not being a tennis forum? Just because it’s not an individual sport doesn’t mean we can’t individually assess a players performance, Pogba’s the one losing possession, making wayward passes, blazing it over in the past. You seem hellbent on protecting Pogba’s time here so far that you’re just being irrational.
I agree that a lot of the players have been sub par under Mourinho, but you have to include Pogba. Yes, he’s had some amazing performances for us since he’s joined, but OVERALL he has been sub par. Sub par meaning below what we expect of him.
It’s just a very fitting term that really sums them up. I never hear it used in real life though. I like it, it hammers home a very unpleasant bunch that made this place pretty toxic.
It’s a strange trend. Separately disagree that any one group made the place toxic, but That’s a whole other story, pretty sure I’ve been called fan boy, apologist etc etc but generally tried balanced posts without any huge affection for mourinho
Not really. There were a hardcore group of maybe 6 or 7 that came out with their condescending, holier than thou bullshit on a daily basis. You know, the ones that slated our players and absolved Mourinho of any blame no matter what facts they were presented with.
Ya but like anything there were more than a couple at the other extreme too. Certainly no winners on either side. Anyway I guess that’s been done to death.
Both sides deserve blame. You couldn't watch..say Spurs v Southampton and not have the thread littered with the woe are us, Jose is a plague posts cluttering up real discussion.
Now Jose is gone and that mindset has changed so we can have proper discussions again.
The word was first used on the caf by @Pogue Mahone in 2010. Surprisingly (and rather aptly!) it was used for for blind Mourinho followers even back then
Yeah, some opinions are based in fact though?
Caption won't show but it says no CM in Europe has been involved in more goals that Pogba this season.
7 goals 6 assists in 22 games.
Honestly I've watched a lot of old games of Bobby Charlton and he was a magical footballer, unbelievably good at so many things. I really think Pogba has a chance of being as good.
It seems it’s not longer possible to believe Pogba is one of the best players in the league and that there are things he needs to work on at the same time - for whatever reason. It’s either he’s shit and needs to be sold or he’s the best player anywhere.
I expect a lot from Pogba, the amount of talent he has is ridiculous so I think we all need to hold to a higher standard than most other players - he’s a huge personality too which makes his attitude even more important because he’s looked at as one of the leaders.
That said I can’t wait for him to kick on from these next few games and improve.
I expect a lot from Pogba, the amount of talent he has is ridiculous so I think we all need to hold to a higher standard than most other players - he’s a huge personality too which makes his attitude even more important because he’s looked at as one of the leaders.
That said I can’t wait for him to kick on from these next few games and improve.
I think he's too free spirited to be a proper midfielder.
That being said, it's almost unfair how stacked he is both technically and physically. Long legs, skillful and strong. Most players would struggle one on one with him.
Undoubtedly, although I think he’s the best already tbh. But what I think people mean when they say what you said, I agree that he has an even greater potential to be something totally scary and unseen before.
I had issues with his performances and attitude for the last month or so under Mourinho but Pogba is one of those players, similar to Cantona, who can be so important to a team that he warrants a bit of special treatment. I think Ole will see that with him and get the best out of him in the same way Fergie did with King Eric. Mourinho either didn't recognise what Paul needed, or else he couldn't put the benefit of the team above his ego.
Managed properly, Pogba has the potential to be an all-time great at this club and for his country.
Managed properly, Pogba has the potential to be an all-time great at this club and for his country.
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And to think he dicked up a number of pennos as well.
If he plays to his level, along with Martial, Sanchez and Rashford, we have so much potential.
Just a shame our defence is such a shambles.
We all know he is very good, borderline world class. He can certainly dominate the smaller teams, now he needs to turn up for the big games and run the show by himself. He is now at the age and the right stage of his career to do that. Come on Paul!
We're halfway through the season. If we double those numbers by the end we have 14 goals and 12 assists. Maybe even more as we've been playing a defensive setup for half of the season. undoubtedly world class
Sums up my own feelings pretty well.
Although, just like Ole, I’m tempted to reserve judgment until we see similar performances against tougher opposition.
Thats typical of creative players, just look who’s around him on that list. It’d be nice if creative attackers could always choose the best option, but to create is to take risks. When you encourage attackers to stop taking risks you encourage them to stop being creative.
Good post. Agree with majority of what you said, especially the Modric part. When it comes to the world cup, the funny thing for me is that Pogba excelled at so many things he is labelled as lacking. And it wasn't just in the world cup as he also excelled at the same things in Euro 2016. Given the different outcomes of the two tournaments and the subsequent narratives of Pogba's performances, it lends credit to the argument that his performance are completely panned unless his team wins it all. In these tournaments, Pogba was very good in his defensive and offensive positioning, he was also very good at controlling the team's play from deep and showed great in-game intelligence and decision-making. The other thing that was visible is that he prefers to play quick one-two's whenever he has good passing options, and in France he has plenty of it given the quality around him. He would switch the play quickly whenever Mbappe, Griezmann or Matuidi had space to run into for a counter. He would also use Giroud well to relieve pressure. The difference in outcomes for the two tournaments, France's forwards were wasteful at euro 16 final and the team got punished by a sucker punch. However, even after his team won the world cup with him being very instrumental in the engine room, the media preferred not to focus on all the good that he did, and instead focused on his teammates' contributions. So now Kante, Mbappe and even Varane are widely reported to have been better and more influential. Imagine having Real Madrid dominate tournament after tournament, and then insisting that Casemiro has been better and more influential than Modric. It's unreal how much vitriol and negativity is thrown at Pogba, the last thing you expect is for United fans who supposedly watch him week in week out to get caught in and push such agendas against a United player.
In fairness, Pogba played quite well in the big games under Mourinho. I imagine he'll be even better in those games with this renewed belief.
I'm willing to accept that to an extent, but I do think there are still important caveats to be worked out with Pogba.
I don't think anyone is particularly surprised to see him doing well again under Ole, because we all know the talent is there, but it remains to be seen why we haven't seen this Pogba as often as we would like in his United career to date. Let's hope it's simply a personal problem with Mourinho, because it's by far the least concerning thing, but I do worry that he just feels he currently has a point to prove and will return to the frustrating Pogba that Mourinho tried (and failed) to light a fire under the arse of. Time will tell.
So much talent. He'd walk into any team (not managed by Mourinho)!
People want Pogba to be Xavi, Zidane and Toure at the same time.
5:45 Tunnel Cam, urging our players to press from first moment and start the game strong.
Do I got an interesting stat for you.
Since the start of the 2017/18 season, both Pogba and De Bruyne have played 47 games in the premier league.
Despite City scoring 54 more goals than us on that time, Pogba has 2 more goal contributions than De Bruyne.
That is a crazy stat in favour of Pogba. 54 more goals and yet De Bruyne has fewer goal contributions. Most of you expect too much imo.
Since the start of the 2017/18 season, both Pogba and De Bruyne have played 47 games in the premier league.
Despite City scoring 54 more goals than us on that time, Pogba has 2 more goal contributions than De Bruyne.
That is a crazy stat in favour of Pogba. 54 more goals and yet De Bruyne has fewer goal contributions. Most of you expect too much imo.
He’s fecking wound me up no end this season but I hope he can change my mind on him, played great against Huddersfield and my MOTM.
Was wondering what he was pointing at when he scored the 2nd, I’m probably being dumb but I thought it was the 20 legend banner, which if that was the case ok great you’re happy Mourinhos gone, so am I but just leave it now, am I reading too much into that? Or was he actually pointing at Santa’s sleigh as it he flew over old Trafford taking in a Boxing Day game, cause we all know he’s a United fan.
Was wondering what he was pointing at when he scored the 2nd, I’m probably being dumb but I thought it was the 20 legend banner, which if that was the case ok great you’re happy Mourinhos gone, so am I but just leave it now, am I reading too much into that? Or was he actually pointing at Santa’s sleigh as it he flew over old Trafford taking in a Boxing Day game, cause we all know he’s a United fan.
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Those other players (salah, zaha, sterling etc) are attackers that play further up the pitch while Pogba is notorious for losing the ball in our own half.
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