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Actually in the EL he was asked to play deep and facilitate the forward players. He actually performed the role he was given fine. It was the likes of Bruno and Rashford that didn’t step up.He had the chance to help us win the EL a couple of years ago. He also had the chance to help us win the FA Cup in the final against Chelsea in 2018. Both times he failed to step up.
Poor Verratti.I just don't see PSG having the chance to get someone from France like Pogba in their team (on a free aswell) and not doing so.
CDM
Verrati - Pogba
Messi - Mbappe - Neymar
He has all the technical tools to be the best midifelder in the world. I firmly believe that, he just never got close to it from a performance nor consistency POVThe most frustrating player on the planet.
You could argue he's the most talented midfielder on his day. However on his day is not enough. Very disappointing.
I agree with every bit of this. It’s abit of a chicken or egg conversation but from rather early on the notion he didn’t want to be here took hold & the rhetoric became vitriolic. I’m sure people will say they gave him a chance until ‘. . .’ but as you say, at this point after all the water under the bridge it’s not a surprise he’s past caring.Sounds like he doesn't give a shit anymore, and I don't blame him.
The season's gone, we've not won a trophy in years and we won't win any this season, and most likely we'll miss out on CL football. In addition his contract's running out, he doesn't have a consistent position/role at the club, and fans absolutely hate his guts. No reason to care anymore.
As a fan of football first, I wish him luck wherever he goes. In my eyes he never really did anything so bad as to be absolutely hated.
Agree. He came as a 105M € player, but when you have that price tag you have to be absolutely decisive for your team. Unfortunately for us and for Pogba he never was that decisive gamechanger player that we all needed.Sounds like he doesn't give a shit anymore, and I don't blame him.
The season's gone, we've not won a trophy in years and we won't win any this season, and most likely we'll miss out on CL football. In addition his contract's running out, he doesn't have a consistent position/role at the club, and fans absolutely hate his guts. No reason to care anymore.
As a fan of football first, I wish him luck wherever he goes. In my eyes he never really did anything so bad as to be absolutely hated.
Gee, I wonder how that crazy notion came about?I agree with every bit of this. It’s abit of a chicken or egg conversation but from rather early on the notion he didn’t want to be here took hold & the rhetoric became vitriolic. I’m sure people will say they gave him a chance until ‘. . .’ but as you say, at this point after all the water under the bridge it’s not a surprise he’s past caring.
He has endured alot while at United. Joined under Jose with the promise and expectation of big trophies. But our board didn't back Jose the Summer before his meltdown. Since then he's been stuck in as a number 6 / DM which is not his preferred position.Like him or not, I think his comments are completely fair. It's not even so much a Ralf thing but this season he's played in numerous positions, with different players and in different tactical set ups. Even if some thought I was part of the problem I'd be fed of playing for United, winning feck all and not getting anywhere near close to major honours. I think there's a good chance he might leave and take more money than what's on offer at United.
Assuming they want him, pinning his hopes on Ten Hag or Poch to make United challenge again seems like a risky move compared to moving to PSG or even Madrid or Juve on a lower wage.
In my eyes he never really did anything. I dont hate the man but the player, absolutely.Sounds like he doesn't give a shit anymore, and I don't blame him.
The season's gone, we've not won a trophy in years and we won't win any this season, and most likely we'll miss out on CL football. In addition his contract's running out, he doesn't have a consistent position/role at the club, and fans absolutely hate his guts. No reason to care anymore.
As a fan of football first, I wish him luck wherever he goes. In my eyes he never really did anything so bad as to be absolutely hated.
Go on Pogue, prey tell. I’ve seen him compliment other teams in his time, you know the same way multiple players have done before joining us. . . Maybe I missed the worst of it.Gee, I wonder how that crazy notion came about?
Everyone is different, personally I think smiling with the opposition after defeat is a bad look.I couldn't care less about smiling or crying after FT, if the player's performance was shit when the game ends, then that performance was shit regardless of how the player is acting after FT, be it crying or laughing and smiling.
Would you forgive Pogba's shit performance if he was crying after a loss?
I can think of around 250,000 reasons every week why he should care. In fact make that around 250,000 per week plus around 85,000x40 every other week.Sounds like he doesn't give a shit anymore, and I don't blame him.
The season's gone, we've not won a trophy in years and we won't win any this season, and most likely we'll miss out on CL football. In addition his contract's running out, he doesn't have a consistent position/role at the club, and fans absolutely hate his guts. No reason to care anymore.
As a fan of football first, I wish him luck wherever he goes. In my eyes he never really did anything so bad as to be absolutely hated.
His & Ibrahimovichs contracts were leaked years ago, from memory Pogba isn’t on the 250,000 reasons you speak of. If you’re going to feign outrage at least try to use some realistic elements. There are enough actual things to criticise him for without throwing shit at your keyboard.I can think of around 250,000 reasons every week why he should care. In fact make that around 250,000 per week plus around 85,000x40 every other week.
Funny, all I can find are separate reports of £290k or €350k euros.His & Ibrahimovichs contracts were leaked years ago, from memory Pogba isn’t on the 250,000 reasons you speak of. If you’re going to feign outrage at least try to use some realistic elements. There are enough actual things to criticise him for without throwing shit at your keyboard.
You kind of get this feeling listening to several of his interviews over the years that there's a big difference between what he was pitched when signing and where we ended up.He has endured alot while at United. Joined under Jose with the promise and expectation of big trophies. But our board didn't back Jose the Summer before his meltdown. Since then he's been stuck in as a number 6 / DM which is not his preferred position.
I think he has let us down at times, but the club had also let him down just as much as the club has let us fans down too!
Pogba and his agent especially though can feck off!
True.You kind of get this feeling listening to several of his interviews over the years that there's a big difference between what he was pitched when signing and where we ended up.
It's been pretty hard to succeed at united the past 5 years, and there's a nice split of the blame.
What? You just seem to be really angry and it’s hard to know what it is you really want.He's already done that a few years ago when in Japan. His agent hasnt shut up about it either.
I can't believe how many fans we have who still make excuses for him.
He's been a very poor signing.
We aren't mate. The article clearly states that it occurred a day later.We're talking about directly after a game ended
I agree we should move on from him, not because he danced to a song in the dressing room after a loss, or was chummy with oppo players after full time, but because ultimately, his signing didn't work for us, and he wasn't what we expected of him.Everyone is different, personally I think smiling with the opposition after defeat is a bad look.
I forgave many a shit Pogba performance but now I think if we don't move on from him we'll continue to stagnate.
You are not managing these players, and not with them in the dressing room after the games, you are a fan, just like all of us here, so, don't worry about meaningless things, it is not like the players are dancing and smiling after the 5-0 drubbing by Liverpool at OT, do you even know what is Rooney talking about? this is the quote from RooneyIf I were managing players who came off a pitch and had a dance off after a defeat I'd be having a word. You think it's fine, then that's on you.
We're talking about directly after a game ended, after they go home, who gives a toss.
All I am saying, don't worry about stuff that do mean a thing, what we see is the performances on the pitch, that is what we should care about, the rest is as I said many times, meaningless noise.I do remember one time, coming into training at United the day after a defeat, still feeling very annoyed and walking into the dressing room with Michael Carrick.
We found Jesse and Paul dancing in there with the music on. I went over, turned it off and took the speakers out of the dressing room – because that’s my mindset, that’s how I’ve grown up in football.
You are not managing these players, and not with them in the dressing room after the games, you are a fan, just like all of us here, so, don't worry about meaningless things, it is not like the players are dancing and smiling after the 5-0 drubbing by Liverpool at OT, do you even know what is Rooney talking about? this is the quote from Rooney
All I am saying, don't worry about stuff that do mean a thing, what we see is the performances on the pitch, that is what we should care about, the rest is as I said many times, meaningless noise.
You don't care about but loads of others do which is why to act this way after defeat is disrespectful to the fans that pay your wages. Ignorance isn't an excuse.Yes, that Rooney, the one induced into a the PL's Hall of Fame, he was a heavy drinker, cheated on his pregnant wife and other crazy stuff he did.
But guess what, me as fan, I didn't care about his off the pitch antics, what I cared about was his performances on the pitch, he had countless supreme performances, that made him a great player.
Performances on the pitch are what matters the most, the rest is meaningless noise that I don't care about
To be fair he's correct about these 5 years being wasted for him. Same for DDG I suppose. These are players who could have won trophies had they made different moves in their career.Will be interesting to see if RR keeps selecting him, with the back page of a tabloid main headline running the quotes about Pogba saying last 5 years of his career have been wasted at Utd.
Not angry at Pogba anymore. That's been and gone now and looking forward to him leaving. I'm more angry with sycophants who continue to excuse him for all the negative stuff him and his agent have brought onto this club.What? You just seem to be really angry and it’s hard to know what it is you really want.
You’re very naive or very ill-informed if you can’t see the difference between the words/actions of Pogba and (especially) his agent over the last 5 years and the comments of “100s of footballers”Go on Pogue, prey tell. I’ve seen him compliment other teams in his time, you know the same way multiple players have done before joining us. . . Maybe I missed the worst of it.
I’m sure players like Aguero didn’t dream of spending his best years at City when he was 10, it’s six of one - half a dozen of the other here, why would he want to be here without success & his performances haven’t supported success. He’s made no worse comments than 100s of footballers. It’s been 5 years of poor performances from Pogba & fans alike.
If the figures irrelevant, why state it. . .Funny, all I can find are separate reports of £290k or €350k euros.
The actual figure is irrelevant. I remember a time when playing for Utd meant something, and that the minimum requirement was to try your hardest on th pitch week in, week out.
But if you're happy with players giving up, not caring etc. resulting in the mediocrity that we've been served up for the last few years, while people spend their hard-earned money to watch, go ahead.
Who knows, if they cared top-4 could still be on the cards, but nah, feck it, can't be bothered.
Didn’t answer the question but threw insults, how on brand. Happy to discuss further if you can provide examples instead of insults. It’s easy to post ‘the difference’ without substantiation. We’ve done this dance a few times now, I’m not saying Pogba & his agent haven’t mouthed off inappropriately [they fecking have], what I am saying is it’s no worse than multiple other instances. This is the same forum where members would sell their nan if Haaland would sign for us, who’s his agent again? Oh yea & the Ajax right back on a free that posters want, who represents him? Where was the energy when DvBs agent was disclosing discussions earlier in the season? When players talk about how playing for United is their dream prior to joining do you cry for their clubs?You’re very naive or very ill-informed if you can’t see the difference between the words/actions of Pogba and (especially) his agent over the last 5 years and the comments of “100s of footballers”
Great postIf the figures irrelevant, why state it. . .
No fan is happy with players not caring so take that straw man elsewhere. I’m just as bothered by the McToms who look like they give a shit but struggle to pass 10 yards. Not caring/not being good enough, we’ve a squad riddled with both. ‘while people spend their hard earned money’, ‘I remember a time when playing for United meant something’, lad stop trying to be so emotive.
Didn’t answer the question but threw insults, how on brand. Happy to discuss further if you can provide examples instead of insults. It’s easy to post ‘the difference’ without substantiation. We’ve done this dance a few times now, I’m not saying Pogba & his agent haven’t mouthed off inappropriately [they fecking have], what I am saying is it’s no worse than multiple other instances. This is the same forum where members would sell their nan if Haaland would sign for us, who’s his agent again? Oh yea & the Ajax right back on a free that posters want, who represents him? Where was the energy when DvBs agent was disclosing discussions earlier in the season? When players talk about how playing for United is their dream prior to joining do you cry for their clubs?
Naive & ill-informed from you about Pogba is the epitome of irony.
