maybe a bit of both
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I'm confident no team in the top four is thinking the way you are. It would be an awful mentality to have, to count yourself out half way through the season when a couple of wins off top, it literally wouldn't make sense.
They did. Unless I got confused and Redmond got sent off after 57 seconds and not 57 minutes?
Agreed. I genuinely cannot believe the direction he has gone in over the past few seasons. 3-4 seasons ago, almost all of us wanted him sold. Now he's one of the most important players in the team. Unbelievable.
Depending what happens at Anfield either of those sides could be right back in it if Spurs turn Chelsea over.
If he just came out and said something even slightly believable he would get more respect then people just second guessing his motives, in which case fans genuinely believe there is some sort of bias in play.Honestly something needs to be done. That was pretty fecking awful from Mike Dean. I watched several replays and still can't fathom why that's a red. Awful decision. If you didn't know better you'd think he put a bet on or something
I strongly disagree. You didn't look that good even after you equalized. Saints were controlling you well.
Good away win for Spurs, well deserved against a decent team, and which keeps us well in touch with top 4.
We've had a tougher fixture list than many, so our league position is pretty good all things considered. If we get can 4 points from the next two fixtures (away to Watford and home to Chelski), then we'll be looking good for top 4 as the season wears on.
We've had a tougher fixture list than many, so our league position is pretty good all things considered. If we get can 4 points from the next two fixtures (away to Watford and home to Chelski), then we'll be looking good for top 4 as the season wears on.
Mike Dean needs to be investigated. Absolute joke of a referee.
Such a shame a refereeing decision decides another match. That was never a red. Southampton could have got something from this match with 11 men.
Do the opposition players ever get sent off when they play against United ? Since that memorable Gerrard red card, I can't recall us having played against 10 men.
Do the opposition players ever get sent off when they play against United ? Since that memorable Gerrard red card, I can't recall us having played against 10 men.
I wouldn't mind Costa doing the bastard against Spurs. They need a lesson.
What a shit game.
Seem to recall you have an easier 2nd half of the season than most of us. So yeah, looking good for Spurs.
Hope Chelsea get their favourite ref (whomever that is) and a couple of penalty decisions and proceed to thrash them
I don't think it has anything to do with the top 4 really. There is a top 6 for sure. Or perhaps a 1 currently and then a 2-6 after.
I imagine all teams in that top 6 will be looking at the title as their aim. How realistic that is is obviously different for different teams but that should be the 'aim'.
But while Liverpool are only 6 behind Chelsea, they are also only 7 above 6th. That's a two game swing.
I really don't see how people are discounting any team in this race.
Oh stop this
Funny season this. Five clubs have fans who are all confident they'll get one of those three places behind Chelsea, gonna be some real tears either way come May.
I knew he was class after some of the performances he was putting in throughout last season. He's genuinely improved so much that he looks a different player. He's become a really Assertive, confident player, the way he was bolting past some of those saints players was Roberto Carlos like. Best left back in the league by a distance.
feck is that?
You don't get a straight red for tugging a shirt
As real as they come!Wait is this video for real
Still can't believe he gets pick for Spurs games! That videos alone tells a very clear story, how he can defend that, I don't know.
Did every top 5 team win their match? That sucks for Utd.
Arsenal literally set out to finish in the top four, nothing more.
There was cover
If you are denying a goalscoring opportunity, you do.
Well many people are writing off our chances of top 4 when we are closer to Arsenal than anyone is to Chelsea, and in all likelihood it's only City who will truly believe they can catch Chelsea, so for me it's a straight fight for the top 4 between any team below Chelsea, and for now Spurs keeping the pressure on is no bad thing, obviously though we need to keep on winning or it's all irrelevant.
You disagree with what exactly? I made a factual statement, that Redmond got sent off after 57 minutes.
You would have loved us to have played against 11 men, except...we did. For 2/3 of the match.
I'm not sure if you've got your timings confused but we had already equalised and taken the lead (through Alli and Kane) before the red card. After their blitz of half an hour, Saints barely threatened again after that.
I don't think we're going to 'look' very good for much of the season tbh. I don't think we are able to play the same way we did last season because teams are much wiser to our tactics, so we're not going to play in as exciting a way. Yet we're still scoring goals, still keeping a mean defence (relatively and despite our best defender being out for a long period now) and still winning. I'll take that for sure.
Probably the best referee in the world Clattenburg and Tottenham having a field day kicking everyone, with Chelsea ends up getting fine. Sound familiar?!Hope Chelsea get their favourite ref (whomever that is) and a couple of penalty decisions and proceed to thrash them
Its an incredible transformation. I know he rubs some opposition fans up the wrong way too, which I like. And agreed re the best lb in the league. I hope he can stay fit for the season.
I meant that he would have more difficult for you to win so largely 11 vs. 11, as despite equalizing and having most of the ball, you didn't look great.
Top four is another target albeit a smaller one, It is a standard target as it comes with an incentive. When you weigh up a season if you're a decent club you look towards title, then the next step is top four, that's why I used the term top four because they are currently on target. When you are in that target your mentality switches to going for the title.
As united and Tottenham aren't in the top four we have a slightly different mentality as we need to get in to the top four as a base target even if ultimately everyone wants the title.
My point is though Liverpool aren't focused on what united or spurs are doing as that isn't their aim, they're all eyes on Chelsea. Spurs and United aren't looking back at west brom or everton because we have higher targets in our reach.
Sounds very familiar (sigh). Can only hope Costa has his shooting boots on and that Hazard doesn't choose that day to be lazy.
I think they go for the title but just haven't got a good enough side. They did finish second last season.
We didn't look great and neither did Southampton. As I've already said, we'd done more than equalise. We were in the lead by the time their player went off.
All of the top six won. That doesn't happen often.
It's hard to see which sides will finish top four right now.
It's hard to see which sides will finish top four right now.
Ignore the truth if you like.Oh stop this
Of the 9 away games Spurs have played - 7 have been against teams in the Top 11 and only one against a lower half team - Boro! We haven't played away to a bottom 6 side yet.
Not only does it mean we have got through most of our hardest away fixtures but also those teams still have to come to WHL.
Fair enough.
I just think that we're so tightly bunched up currently that while I'm sure we all have the same goal, we're all also aware of the teams around us too.
Say Man City and Arsenal lose next matchday and we win. We jump up to 3rd.
Or let's say Liverpool lose their next two and you win the next two (with a healthy swing in gd). What currently looks a big gap in terms of points and position vanishes.
Its a very close and exciting fight.
Anyone else really enjoying those low-finish-in-the-corner goals like Son's goal? They are just so precise and controlled finishes and that's nice to see instead of a player just blasting it hoping that the ball goes in.
Well that was rubbish, we didn't gain any ground at all.
On the plus side, neither did we lose any.
On the plus side, neither did we lose any.