MrMarcello
In a well-ordered universe...
Reading further down... the man is Andy Goodman who wrote several episodes for Dinosaurs, an early to mid 90s sitcom.
Reading further down... the man is Andy Goodman who wrote several episodes for Dinosaurs, an early to mid 90s sitcom.
Surely the Irish of all Europeans should have no issues whatsoever empathising with the blacks in the States?Well, in Ireland it's to get out of the house and for instagram likes.
Oh, I remember that. It wasn't very good, but it was something.Reading further down... the man is Andy Goodman who wrote several episodes for Dinosaurs, an early to mid 90s sitcom.
He's a good man.Reading further down... the man is Andy Goodman who wrote several episodes for Dinosaurs, an early to mid 90s sitcom.
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Idiot.Well, in Ireland it's to get out of the house and for instagram likes.
Unfortunately not. We have the same problems every other european country has.Surely the Irish of all Europeans should have no issues whatsoever empathising with the blacks in the States?
Thats good, thanks for updateFor people asking about the police officer who hit the traffic light when the horse bolted:
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But you also have a history of being on the other side of colonialism, so to speak, unlike a lot of European countries.Unfortunately not. We have the same problems every other european country has.
To be fair, in comparison to Darren Grimes a set of traffic lights can appear somewhat sentient.Tweet
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You’ve got it the wrong way round. The media is much more interested in BLM than the situation in Hong Kong, for various reasons. It’s definitely more “interesting”.I’m sorry but if you believe the HK protests merit more attention in countries like France and UK than the George Floyd murder I can only commend the media for continuing to do such a good job of manufacturing consent.
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Good point!To be fair, in comparison to Darren Grimes a set of traffic lights can appear somewhat sentient.
Mail said:THEY PEED ON CHURCHILL!
he’s probably trying to decide whether or not he was upset when we sold Jaap StamYou have to wonder what Derek Chauvin is thinking at the moment.
I haven’t got anything the wrong way round. You’ve misinterpreted my point if you think I was saying that the media is focusing more on the HK protests than the protests about racism.You’ve got it the wrong way round. The media is much more interested in BLM than the situation in Hong Kong, for various reasons. It’s definitely more “interesting”.
In the meantime, the situation in Hong Kong, a territory Britain helped to transfer to an autocratic power after a long period under British colonialism has just had its autonomy damaged and is witnessing a key step in the erosion of democratic freedom. Britain has a very real responsibility in highlighting and pushing back against China.
Of these 2 very significant issues, only one is clearly being underreported on in the UK.
Everything said by anyone can be treated with a huge dose of salt, but you only have to look at what’s actually happened and how those in Hong Kong feel about it to understand the dire situation.I haven’t got anything the wrong way round. You’ve misinterpreted my point if you think I was saying that the media is focusing more on the HK protests than the protests about racism.
As for the idea the HK issue is being ‘underreported’ I find that laughable - as a good rule of thumb whenever a power like Britain or America invokes ideas of “protecting democracy” or defending “human rights” you can treat it with a huge fecking dose of salt. In terms of significance to the average citizen, the China/HK dispute is a fart in the wind compared to the actual hurricane of oppression and racism that is an inescapable daily reality for many in Britain/America/France.
I’d like to discuss this further but don’t want to further derail this thread. . . so many questions. . .Because simply, I grew up with my white english side of the family, and I'm not super dark or heavily featured, so in my life and how I refer to myself, as a white British person. My identity and how I feel about myself is hard, and I chose at a young age, and with my english family to fit in. As I say, I'm more european looking, and do pass for british european etc in my looks. I've never said in my life that I am black, ever. Simple as that. I don't need to explain how difficult it is to feel or look differnt or feel that you don't fit in with even your own family. I've always said as does my family that I'm british and thats that. I am looking like european though. As I say, if you knew me you'd understand. No worries you can believe what you want. I feel like I belong with my english family, and I am not raised any other way.
We do. People are quick to forget, I guess. Maybe were marginally better than average (i really doubt it) but were a long, long way from having a handle on it.But you also have a history of being on the other side of colonialism, so to speak, unlike a lot of European countries.
I bet you do.I truly regret posting here today.
At this point, it is literally what they exist for and nothing else.The Hong Kong protests bigger than the systemic racism in Western society that goes back centuries? Bloody hell, the media sure do a good job of brainwashing people.
I bet you do.
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How does that work? Because a lot of them are on the front line protesting.Healthcare workers lives apparently don't matter enough.
Which is not what should be happening. Its fecking stupid seeing all the crowds out today, the protests are not worth the potential for spread. They can be done another day or another way. I hope I am wrong and we dont see thousands of cases coming out of this like we have in every other large gathering.believe it or not - the protests have taken over the entire media space. Even the pandemic is now a backstory.
Yeh its great, but also just common sense. I can't help but think the protesters over here are just dickheads. Whereas in the US its the police. Complete role reversal.This is the complete difference in British to US policing...
When the protestors line up in front of the police on their knees (from 1.30 minute mark) "saying hands up dont shoot",they just walk past and confuse them. In the US as we have seen, you get pepper sprayed, tear gassed, dragged to the floor or shot with a rubber bullet..
This is why its so embarrassing attacking police and using copy cat behaviour
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Its mindboggling. These people shouldn't be cops.Tweet
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they're clapping the officers who pushed a 75 year old
Holy feck. This is epic.This so so real and so powerful, one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.
If you only watch one VDO today, it has to be this one. Give it the time of day and listen.
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It certainly summarises well quite a lot of the feelings there. I think the analogy with the monopoly board was very well put too. The ending statement was fantastic too.This so so real and so powerful, one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.
If you only watch one VDO today, it has to be this one. Give it the time of day and listen.
(Kimberly Jones, author of I'm Not Dying Here With You Tonight)
Spot on. The HK one is a different topic and some people have no idea what they are talking about.I haven’t got anything the wrong way round. You’ve misinterpreted my point if you think I was saying that the media is focusing more on the HK protests than the protests about racism.
As for the idea the HK issue is being ‘underreported’ I find that laughable - as a good rule of thumb whenever a power like Britain or America invokes ideas of “protecting democracy” or defending “human rights” you can treat it with a huge fecking dose of salt. In terms of significance to the average citizen, the China/HK dispute is a fart in the wind compared to the actual hurricane of oppression and racism that is an inescapable daily reality for many in Britain/America/France.
Are you sure this is the case? "Peaceful protest" is a really bizarre concept to me when it involves blatant disregard for the wellbeing of other people's lives. Like "we don't give a feck if you die but we're calm enough about it not to smash up your shop windows".If it was all about a thought through set of demands, followed by a steady campaign to build support, then I agree, arguing about the timing of a march or the continuation of protests over days, or changing tactics to avoid public health risks would mean something. But this is about pent up frustration and anger that says yes, we've seen it all before - we know it happens, but this time we can't just switch it off and get on with something else. It's currently about saying this matters, and saying it often enough and loud enough that it doesn't just roll straight off the front page and into twitter-land again.
To be fair, If you don't think what someone has said is racist, probably unwise to call what they say "blatantly racist"..the person you replied to didn't say anything racist so I can only assume you were referring to me.I don’t think he’s racist, or that he’s said anything racist, but his response to the protests is odd as he’s posted several times that people should be going back to work and schools should be opening in the UK. That’s exceedingly more likely to spread the virus than the protests we’re witnessing.
He mocked colleagues and people worried about returning to normal life so I don’t see how he can now turn around and condemn these protests because of the pandemic.
I was at the Manchester protest this morning.If you are not part of the protest or organising the protests in the UK then please don't speak on their behalf about that they are protesting about. Take the time to listen to what they are saying first.
Mate reread my posts and tell me where I called you blatantly racist, or racist, or even guilty of having a racist view. The only time I mentioned racist was to say that you weren’t.To be fair, If you don't think what someone has said is racist, probably unwise to call what they say "blatantly racist"..the person you replied to didn't say anything racist so I can only assume you were referring to me.