I'm going to guess that it's similar to Adam Lanza and that it belongs to an adult in his family. Hard to get guns online in the US, it's not like here in Canada.
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I'm going to guess that it's similar to Adam Lanza and that it belongs to an adult in his family. Hard to get guns online in the US, it's not like here in Canada.
Indeed i am.
have u ever seen anything like that in all your time during the troubles? Its quite surreal, for me anyway.
Feck up on my part. IgnoreSorry arnie, I don't know what this means?
I was only born in 1990 so haven't experienced much of it first hand apart from the couple of bombs in omagh where i live.
Surreal is the perfect word. I cant imagine seeing people walk around armed to the teeth like that no matter what reason they have.
I used to love going to America, been maybe 5 times, but i think id be to scared to return any time soon
All on-duty officers are supposed to wear a vest, but even then it's only protective against specific bullets and who the hell knows what type of weapon and ammo someone has now a days. And you can still get shot in the leg or other major artery and bleed out...then there's the head shot.
Thought of this the other day and it's like you need to invest in technology that scans and looks for a gun. I have no idea if that's even possible, but some type of X-ray vision. It sounds kind of like a movie or Terminator type solution, but damn, any idea or solution is way better than just police officer training and some additional laws that attempt to make owning a gun more difficult.
Even having annual psyc-tests for anyone who is a registered gun owner. But you know damn well there are loads of people who have guns and those weapons aren't registered and those people with unregistered weapons aren't supposed to have a gun.
Found it. Your man chased him and looks to have be thrown something at him but it doesn't justify shooting him.
Stand your ground or not, I don't think he can claim he were justified or a proportion response, can he?
Agree, Im 38 so I cant say I lived through it but America is just fecked.
Then there should be some firmer restrictions on ammo and harsher, much much harsher laws concerning firearms.
At some point we’ll need a US president with a real moral compass and some real balls.
Level II vests are generally good against most handgun rounds, so a very effective choice for policing. Headshots aren't easy so the risk is low. Legs are equally hard to hit, so anything like that would be accidental.
Hard to scan for guns because some are made of metals and others are made of polymers. X-ray type technology would be required but it's just not safe for anyone.
But yeah, America is beyond hope when it comes to guns.
Unfortunately, it's not up to the POTUS. It's a really fecked up and fragile situation with gun laws. On a federal level, it's about Congress. Then special interest groups like the NRA. And the financial backers of the NRA and their ties with politicians. And on the state level, every state has their own laws that they enact, irrespective of federal laws.
Definitely, but there will still be gaps. In Canada you need a firearms licence to purchase ammo but some components don't require this at all.
Severe consequences for any crime committed with a firearm would be good as well.
What amazes me is that a culture like America's that places so much importance on the individual has no sense of individual responsibility when it comes to guns.
Hopefully not.
I just cant wrap head around the whole thing. What was he trying to achieve by being there?
I understand all that, but when does the world get a POTUS that vocally and determinedly fights that shit?
Hate.
Well I don’t want to intentionally upset any Americans on here, I love the USA, but I associate those that have or condone firearms with single cell beings.
edit: couple that with racism and you’re fecked.
There's too many people who have access to guns when they have no reason or right to even have that access. I know of many people who have guns and are responsible. But it's obviously used by too many people as a means of intimidation, intent to harm, and method of defense in a non-household setting.
Well, that's not very nice.
Absolutely. Guns are fecking dangerous and require a person to act responsibly with them at all times. Some people actually don't get this.
Because gun laws and gun violence in the US is not a bipartisan issue. It's that 'fanatical'. Every politician from local government, to state government, to federal government has a clear position on gun laws, nothing in between. It's sad. I think society can still exist and function with guns present, but it's not that way for many, many reasons.
Well, that's not very nice.
Absolutely. Guns are fecking dangerous and require a person to act responsibly with them at all times. Some people actually don't get this.
It goes back to the saying "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." It's much more complicated than that, but as you said and we agree, being a responsible (and sane) person who owns a gun probably won't kill a person in a non-household setting (excluding home invasion, burglary, etc.). What kind of ruffles my feathers are people who think guns are a cool thing and go to a shooting range because it's Instagram worthy or "cool". It's a play thing to them. It's kind of disrespectful and you're treating a deadly weapon as a fun time.
Well, that's not very nice.
Neither are guns. What’s the point? Guns are to shoot things.
I know a few people that go clay pigeon shooting and i suppose that’s one thing but owning fecking assault rifles and automatic weapons is the arena of the dumbass.
Well, proper assault weapons are fully automatic and these are hard to get in the US unless you have loads of money to waste on guns (and ammunition). Not at all practical. Best left to the tourist shooting ranges.
Yes, guns are to shoot things, but they don't have to be living things. That's not very nice at all.
Things are never going to change are they? We're just going round in circles.
A 17 yo has just shot 3 people with an assault rifle (semi or full I don't care) ..... Peoples need for something needs to be balanced for the greter good, any one who disagrees with that is pretty selfish, thick as shit or as it seems... American.
Things have gotten real fecking crazy lately. This is an entirely new circle.
17 year olds shouldn't have access to any firearm unless they are being supervised by their parent or guardian in a proper setting (gun range or hunting) not open carrying in a state where they don't live (or where they live for that matter!).
If this doesn't even make people flinch, America is royally fecked.
Do you realise how fecked this comment is? Kids shouldn't drink, shouldn't smoke, but when your laws allow access to military class weapons the risk is always there? Ban guns and your death rate will fall, its simple math. Your laws are promoting death in your country.
Who is shooting who, and what does it have to do with BLM or the poor man who was shot 7 times in the back?
Sounds strange to people ouside of North America. But it's in their constitution which has been indoctrinated since it was written.
Just like I don't understand customs from other cultures or nations to mine, I doubt anyone outside of USA will 'get' their right to own guns.
It will be forgotten again in a few weeks, then something else will happen.
Lately dude? I don’t see this as a new circle at all. We’ve been reading or hearing about fecked up American gun laws for decades.
I fail to understand the American viewpoint that there’s nothing wrong with their gun laws after all the mass shootings we’ve witnessed over the years and now this latest video?
Guns are killing machines. That is their sole purpose. When you have a Country where you’re able to walk past police officers while carrying a fully automatic assault rifle you are in trouble.
To me its the risk to benefit that they are all to willing to take. If I were to expand on all of this I don't think its gun laws that are all the problem, but clearly it plays a part. There police are clearly under trained, there main go to is to draw their weapon and point. As soon as they do that the likelihood of a shooting escalates dramatically. If we go back to weapon ownership, what real reason does anyone in this day and age have for owning an assault rifle? The answer is none, there is absolutely no reason.
Your first sentence negates the rest of the post! Even background checks are just for new owners ... as you say, there are 350m out there, am sure anyone can buy an unauthorised one in less than 3 phone calls or sms's?
Even a citizen recall would never work. Im not sure you could convince an entire generation not to own one, and the just wait it out for 40 years while the older generation died off. Thats the only way I can think of. And its an absurd idea that will never work.
There is simply no way out, even if you had the political and societal will.
I'm not American and don't live in the US.
The US lacks basic storage requirements that go a long way to keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have access to them as well as reducing the opportunity for crimes of passion or suicide. It sounds far fetched but having to take a few moments to get your gun out of a safe, remove a trigger lock and load it is often sufficient time for one's emotions to calm and adopt a more rational approach. It also reduces accidental shootings when little kids find a loaded gun under a pillow, the bed or in a drawer somewhere.
This is basic stuff that they lack and this easily contributes to hundreds, if not thousands of deaths a year. Remarkably, people feel this infringes their right to keep and bear arms. Just buy a holster and wear it around the house if you feel the need. A gun in a drawer isn't going to help you when multiple people kick your door in.
That said, this thread really isn't the place for this discussion despite last night's horrific and surreal events.
I'm speaking specifically about the anti-racism rioting and the appearance of armed opponents of the rioting coming out to defend freedom or whatever they think they're doing. It's a whole new level of crazy.
I know, but you can at least make it harder for people who shouldn't have guns. That's a big step and they need to do baby steps first, like making people store their guns safely. Not for this thread, though.
Terrifying as it is, it was bound to happen.