She didn't predict this coronavirus. Dean Koontz didn't either.
From a book written by Sylvia Browne in 2008.
She also said a sitting president in the US would die from a heart attack.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Could see a London lockdown as it's become a hotspot recently
People who don’t have it shouldn’t be wearing a mask.It seems most people in Europe/America still don't wear masks
Hong Kong and Taiwan are both very close to the outbreak yet has this relatively contained because EVERYONE wears masks everyday.
I asked myself the same question, I suppose that some don't have printers and I hope that the police will have forms and not simply fine people.
Edit: I missed the part where you don't actually need the form and can write the same things on a paper that you date and sign.
I dunno what teachers are doing where you are, but in 2 days I, and the rest of my school district's teachers, converted our entire curriculum over into a virtual learning format and are continuing to teach our students during this quarantine.
104 have now died in UK
Does CDC recommend the use of facemask to prevent COVID-19?It seems most people in Europe/America still don't wear masks
Hong Kong and Taiwan are both very close to the outbreak yet has this relatively contained because EVERYONE wears masks everyday.
CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory illnesses, including COVID-19. You should only wear a mask if a healthcare professional recommends it. A facemask should be used by people who have COVID-19 and are showing symptoms. This is to protect others from the risk of getting infected. The use of facemasks also is crucial for health workers and other people who are taking care of someone infected with COVID-19 in close settings (at home or in a health care facility).
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html
Should have been at the weekend but our government is so reactive to everything.
Brother in law just drove past like 50 'tanks' (assuming he means personnel vehciles) heading london direction.
Could be an unrelated event and i got told by the wife so i take no responsibility for this statement
Could be an unrelated event and i got told by the wife so i take no responsibility for this statement
It’s not really to do with masks. They might help a little but it’s really only fitted filtered face masks that really help. One reason Hong Kong is relatively well is because they are so well prepared after SARS. Hand sanitizers everywhere. Government instruction videos about cleanliness in your house, battalions of cleaners cleaning everything that’s frequently touched. They are just prepared for it. They kept all this up even though sars was a few years ago. I only know this because my sis lives there. Compare that to here.It seems most people in Europe/America still don't wear masks
Hong Kong and Taiwan are both very close to the outbreak yet has this relatively contained because EVERYONE wears masks everyday.
Where were they coming from?Brother in law just drove past like 50 'tanks' (assuming he means personnel vehciles) heading london direction.
Could be an unrelated event and i got told by the wife so i take no responsibility for this statement
It actually is quite restrictive, because it makes you a bit anxious about being stopped and then finding your reason for travel isn't accepted. You double-think everything.
Yeah, it's going to get very bad, very quickly.
As a manager of a small team of 6 I'm facing some new challenges. The rest of my company can work from home but my team are the 'hands on' guys / girls that do the 'output'. We can't properly work from home and we've been quarantined for over a week now. I am seeing some early signs of anxiety and stress amongst them. This situation has so many factors to it and it is evolving every day.
I genuinely don't envy any head of state right now. Every leader is surely facing some very difficult decisions almost hourly.
https://www.geekwire.com/2020/scientists-find-86-percent-coronavirus-infections-go-unreported/
It'd be interesting to know when the Vo data were collected and whether the two converge.
Note: Again, the figure in the article isn't a set-in-stone number. And it does not mean 86% of people are going to get it. It's similar in principle to the study where the Italians tested Vo and found 'between 50 and 75%, are completely asymptomatic but a formidable source of contagion.' It's also somewhat an illustration of how the 'lack of testing' led to the surprise jump start the virus got.
It'd be interesting to know when the Vo data were collected and whether the two converge.
Note: Again, the figure in the article isn't a set-in-stone number. And it does not mean 86% of people are going to get it. It's similar in principle to the study where the Italians tested Vo and found 'between 50 and 75%, are completely asymptomatic but a formidable source of contagion.' It's also somewhat an illustration of how the 'lack of testing' led to the surprise jump start the virus got.
Trump is now disagreeing with what his Treasury Secretary said on Capitol Hill today about the level of unemployment we could see as a result of this.
If we get anywhere near 15k a day it will be insanely impressive. For context, the UK today said they were looking to ramp up to 25k per day. Per capita that'd be quite a gap.
Right so a guy really fecking up a job where he's responsible for millions of lives isn't worthy of discussion? I tell you what, without that discussion and all the subsequent U-turns we'd be in a real mess right now.
Robust debate over the best strategy is the only thing that will expose what that strategy should be unless you're willing to leave it to 400 corrupt ivory tower feckwits who all studied classics at Oxford and are therefore clearly thoroughly equipped to judge the best course of action in a pandemic?
The people complaining about being locked away are too long sighted as understandable as it is, we need a chance to fight back and we need to push this back to give us breathing room.
People are anxious because they know whats coming but havent registered it yet. When hospitals are overflowing and social media really brings it home we will see a lot more understanding of the shitshow we are in and little complaints about being stuck in the house for a week or two can fade into the background.
Hopefully reinfection is low and we can ease back into society with understanding about hygeine and social distancing. Thats what we have to aim for.
The economy will tank anyway, if you let it run ranpant then you become lepers to the world until you get it undet control. It doesnt really matter how many people say feck it and lets get back to work, youll be cut off to the world
People are anxious because they know whats coming but havent registered it yet. When hospitals are overflowing and social media really brings it home we will see a lot more understanding of the shitshow we are in and little complaints about being stuck in the house for a week or two can fade into the background.
Hopefully reinfection is low and we can ease back into society with understanding about hygeine and social distancing. Thats what we have to aim for.
The economy will tank anyway, if you let it run ranpant then you become lepers to the world until you get it undet control. It doesnt really matter how many people say feck it and lets get back to work, youll be cut off to the world
Our behaviour is similar to that of the Italians. Look at them now.
I must admit though, I've noticed I've been hearing 'it's just flu' a lot less from some people crowing that phrase on loop until only last week!
Nationalism really does rot the brain.
Would have been around Northampton and I'd assume the M1.
I can't forsee a lockdown personally but perhaps they're gearing up for any looting issues.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...r-covering-wuhan-outbreak-tops-one-free-press
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Qiushi
And, this is his last vlog before he disappeared. It's long, but worth a watch to get an impression of how China has dealt with the outbreak:
Ireland is still a very humid country which could help.
The yearly average relative humidity in Singapore is 84%, in Manchester its 85% and Dublin 79%. I think people just don't realise because it doesn't get that warm all that often. The temperature will probably impact but the climate in the UK and Ireland may prove to be favourable come spring/summer.
Great and informative posts. Cheers.
Debate over the strategy yeah, but it's feckwits saying "Boris is shit" "haha Boris is clueless" as if he hasn't got loads of advisors around him and medical professionals, not a bunch of people behind a computer screen eating wotsits in their underpants.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...367f758bec47cad361f/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
Edit: It's pretty much what Dwayne surmised: a bureaucratic field manual. Who reports to whom, what goes where etc.
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Schools closing in Wales and Scotland but not England. I mean what is wrong with parliament just make the decision universal. The dithering they have done since the weekend has allowed this virus to spread ten fold. Absolute morons.
Not reading all that but "it will" or it could? Or worst case scenario?
The education secretary is making a statement at 5pm so this may be about to change. My nephew and niece's school has just announced they have had to close due to staff having to self-isolate so I'd imagine they will be closed sooner rather than later.
If anything, on my FB feed it’s the opposite who are bashing him.
I wonder how many pages Trump managed.
My kids school has just started sending me learn at home tools so I suspect the are expecting this announcement.
From the PDF...
Assumptions
In the absence of facts, planning assumptions represent information deemed true. They are
necessary to facilitate planning development efforts. Assumptions set a baseline for planning
purposes and do not take the place of specific activities or decision points that will occur during
a COVID- 19 outbreak. The following planning assumptions assisted in the development of an
operational environment for this plan.
1. Universal susceptibility and exposure will significantly degrade the timelines and
efficiency of response efforts.
2 . A pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness.
3. The spread and severity of COVID -19 will be difficult to forecast and characterize.
4 . Increasing COVID -19 suspected or confirmed cases in the U .S. will result in increased
hospitalizations among at-risk individuals, straining the healthcare system .
5 . States will request federal assistance when requirements exceed state , local, tribal, and
territorial (SLTT) capabilities to respond to COVID - 19. This may include requests for
assistance of HHS through the HHS Region based on the scope of assistance available
through an emergency supplemental appropriation and may include additional assistance
under the Stafford Act.
6 . Supply chain and transportation impacts due to ongoing COVID - 19 outbreak will likely
result in significant shortages for government , private sector, and individual U . S .
consumers .
As the federal response to COVID - 19 evolves beyond a public health and medical
response , additional federal departments and agencies will be required to respond to the
outbreak and secondary impacts , thereby increasing the need for coordination to ensure a
unified, complete , and synchronized federal response.
NI schools taking it into their own hands as well. Arlene needs to stop looking at London first to make political points
Fairly certain we will have them closed by Monday in NI.
Just had something similar at my university. A guy came in on Monday who was in our lab for around 3 hours, and who I spent an hour talking to. I later found out his housemate has been very ill with Covid like symptoms. Then yesterday he himself went into self isolation due to coming down with the same symptoms. I found this out today and went to the University health and safety manager and told her this. Her reply “if he hasn’t got a positive diagnosis then no measures will be taken and no one recommended to self isolate”. How can he get a positive diagnosis when they’re not testing people without severe disease aka 80-90% of infected people? The reason for testing is to prevent further spread. Ridiculous, country is going to be decimated in a very short time with attitudes like this. Stark contrast to the response shown by China and the surrounding countries.
Jesus... 319 deaths in Lombardy alone today. Number of new cases is down though.
Government is looking into the use of veterinary ventilators for human use.
Government is looking into the use of veterinary ventilators for human use.
What do we think happens with Brexit due to this? May have missed it but are the government still working to the 31 Dec deadline? Surely that will have to be extended?
Get this man another shed!