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Looks like he's losing his hair, looks kind of thin. By the by.Tweet
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So this is yet another BoJo u-turn?
Looks like he's losing his hair, looks kind of thin. By the by.Tweet
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So this is yet another BoJo u-turn?
I think it's not legally enforceable because the "ping" is based on bluetooth-roaming contact, whereas the NHS Track and Trace requires someone to personally identify those they were in close contact with.Surely the app is there so that they automate the system and to alleviate the need to hire hundreds of staff to phone people. It's got to be powered by the same systems, no?
Children living with parents in two households are able to visit both parents in both houses whilst self-isolating. I’ll find the part of the report ASAP but I had to help my friend with this about 6 months ago.My son had a case in his class and had to isolate till today. As my kids live with their mother, it means I couldn't see them. The week before that my wife had to isolate, which meant the kids couldn't stay with us. Now that my son's isolation has ended, literally within hours, my daughter has been told to isolate because of a case in her class, just days before the school breaks up for the summer. So that's at least another week I can't see them.
So the only thing I can do is Skype them. I just rang then, and who's wandering around in the background but their 80 year old grandfather!
I don't like not being able to see my children, but I know I'm doing the right thing by them and everyone else I come into contact with. It's clear that that side of the family couldn't give a shit. This whole pandemic is being prolonged by selfish, idiotic behaviour like this.
You say 'interesting', I say infuriating. If they catch it, and end up in hospital or worse, my kids could grow up blaming themselves for their grandparent's idiocy. I'd like to be the adult in their lives who sets a good example and teaches them about responsibility, even when it means having to make sacrifices, such as not being able to be with your loved ones.In your case, interesting to see people at risk (grandparents) are more risk-taker and independent thinker so more inclined to follow their personal rules.
Yeah, none of that mentions isolating. It's the general guidance through lockdown, which is how we dealt with the kids then.Children living with parents in two households are able to visit both parents in both houses whilst self-isolating. I’ll find the part of the report ASAP but I had to help my friend with this about 6 months ago.
Edit 1: Here’s the link to the document with answers about this. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8901/
Edit 2: The specific guidance:
In response to the initial UK Government guidance issued in March 2020, the President of the Family Division of the High Court (England and Wales) noted that the guidance does not mean that children must move between homes, the decision being one for parents to take after assessing their circumstances (bold original):
Government guidance issued alongside the Stay at Home Rules on 23rd March deals specifically with child contact arrangements. It says:
“Where parents do not live in the same household, children under 18 can be moved between their parents’ homes.”
This establishes an exception to the mandatory ‘stay at home’ requirement; it does not, however, mean that children must be moved between homes. The decision whether a child is to move between parental homes is for the child’s parents to make after a sensible assessment of the circumstances, including the child’s present health, the risk of infection and the presence of any recognised vulnerable individuals in one household or the other.2
The guidance from the Family Division has not since been updated.
Guidance issued by the Governments of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland states that where parents do not live in the same household, children can be moved between their parents’ homes.
Oh, I know the loopholes are unbelievable, but I thought both an app notification and a contact by test and trace were both enforceable. Still, this is what you get when you only spend £12 billion eh! A total shambles that nobody but a minority take seriously.I think it's not legally enforceable because the "ping" is based on bluetooth-roaming contact, whereas the NHS Track and Trace requires someone to personally identify those they were in close contact with.
Also, for anyone who can't have/doesn't have the app for whatever reason, it would make having it's notifications legally binding pretty tricky.
I could be wrong, but all I know is that if you get a "ping" you are not legally obliged to isolate. Of course, you absolutely should, but as I was alluding to in regards to the above post, there are surely other things in people's lives that are more pressing/dangerous.
You can go to urgent medical appointments, it depends if it would be classified as this or not. I would suggest speaking to the gp, some are even set up to receive pictures of things like this. If there is a suspicion of cancer then it’s definitely urgent and being seen shouldn’t be delayedSo my girlfriend is due to have a doctor check a potentially (though hopefully not) cancerous mole this coming week. She’s just been pinged, however, so will have to reschedule for the following week. Another week of worry.. but I understand the need for this system.
It’s just very upsetting seeing Johnson & co. go against the system with little or no consequence, when people like my girlfriend (and those, I’m sure, in far worse circumstances) have to suffer as a result.
Talk of vaccine every month for long covid sufferers:Yup, that's true! It's for the best to get it done. Feels like this is what it's going to be like for the foreseeable future- learning to live with the virus and getting boosters for different variants.
Exactly what I saw today in my local supermarket too. Probably 70% masked however most of the unmasked were 60+Went to my local supermarket just now & about 60% people were masked up, which was more than I expected. However, most old people were unmasked, which is disappointing as they should be the most careful.
I've noticed throughout the pandemic that some people believe that sleeve tattoos, gym bodies and high-vis vests make you invulnerable to covid.Mask uptake is generally really good still in Dublin, but yeah, it's usually auld people who either don't have them or don't have their nose covered. I guess you have to give them the benefit of the doubt though, maybe they have respiratory issues.
Get a few young total scummers who don't mask up either though and parade around like they're legends for not doing it . Standard stuff.
If you only caught covid count yourself lucky. A few will be waking up with itchy bits, regret and maybe more.With social distancing and mask rules gone there were some big queues for Nightclubs in London coming up to midnight last night, queuing round the block. Anyone go to a club? Mind you, probably still be in bed now if so
It took 1 week for NL closed nightclubs, negative tests required for entry yet 100 infected from just one club.With social distancing and mask rules gone there were some big queues for Nightclubs in London coming up to midnight last night, queuing round the block. Anyone go to a club? Mind you, probably still be in bed now if so
Great, so the clubbers have got a month and a bit of non-stop super-spreader events to look forward to. What a country we are!Double-jabbed requirement for nightclubs and 'large events' from September now in the UK. No negative test exemption.
Daily Mail and Express readers are going to go mental. Love itDouble-jabbed requirement for nightclubs and 'large events' from September now in the UK. No negative test exemption.
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Interesting, well by stopping the unvaccinated going out and working, soon it will be 100% of double vaccinated in hospital.Tweet
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My morning and commute in was like this (around Bank) but afternoon and % with masks on is much much lower. Feel like it being a lovely day isn't helping!Spent half the day in Central London so far. Mask uptake, specially when walking into any building (coffee shops, sandwich bars, etc), is surprisingly very high. Among all age groups. I would say 80% or even above. Even on the tubes its 80% or higher again.
I'll be in the City next on Thursday. Should be a good time to compare the enthusiasm.
Edit: disappointed I missed the nightclubbing.
It'll be by getting the document from the NHS App (which links to your health records) or contacting your GP for the same.how do you prove you have been double jabbed?
Nothing official for Delta variant I believe.Grim!
Is there ever any news on reinfections? E.g., someone that was infected maybe April 2020 and again with the Delta variant.
Yep, saw the same just now going home. Masks won't last long now.My morning and commute in was like this (around Bank) but afternoon and % with masks on is much much lower. Feel like it being a lovely day isn't helping!
I heard it as 16 not 60Tweet
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Easy, allow your details to be sent to the dept of health and when they release an app you get a qr code. I have minehow do you prove you have been double jabbed?
He definitely said 60% but was trying to explain why (quite clearly I might add). He was pretty positive about it in general as he wasn't headline grabbing like Sky.I heard it as 16 not 60
Thats feckin outrageousHe definitely said 60% but was trying to explain why (quite clearly I might add). He was pretty positive about it in general as he wasn't headline grabbing like Sky.
Eh? You’ll have to explain the logic behind that one.Interesting, well by stopping the unvaccinated going out and working, soon it will be 100% of double vaccinated in hospital.
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I think it's an equity thing.But until then everyone can go to one?
It’s that fairness bollox that a lot of the anti covid passport crew were getting worked up about. Don’t treat the un-vaccinated any differently until after they’ve been offered a vaccine.But until then everyone can go to one?