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Varane is a colossus.
Yeah to that I suggest you look at the Vidic game back in 09 against West Ham when Giggs scored a brilliant goal if you think that he has more presence than NemanjaWhat? Varane is absolutely a colossus in the air - I'd say he's stronger in the air than Rio ever was and closer to Vidic. He's taller than both btw. He's also very two-footed and quite smooth on the ball, and at the same time, he's very fast. I wouldn't say he's at their league just yet, but to say he's not great in the air is BS.
IMO I think it does. The PL hasnt changed that much and its going to start to show against teams that have a target man. And there about 10 in the PLHis positioning for headed clearances is fantastic, saved us numerous times last night alone.
He may not be as aggressive as those guys but he doesn’t need to be, strikers today are not the same as yesteryear, very few carry a genuine, aggressive aerial threat.
Where in my quote did I ever say he had more presence than Vidic? I argued, which I still do, that Varane is better in the air than Rio but not quite at Vidic's level... He's faster and better with the ball than Vidic, however. He definitely doesn't have the same presence as Vidic, but I think he is coming to the point that attackers realize they cannot outrun him, and most realize they cannot outmuscle him. That makes attackers doubt themselves, which in turn creates a presence, even if he doesn't nearly look as intimidating as Vidic or Rio.Yeah to that I suggest you look at the Vidic game back in 09 against West Ham when Giggs scored a brilliant goal if you think that he has more presence than Nemanja
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They just dealt very effectively with one of the best around. Haaland poses a massive threat, but he would against most defenders. After that you have, what, Mitrovic? Che Adams? Not exactly Drogba are they?IMO I think it does. The PL hasnt changed that much and its going to start to show against teams that have a target man. And there about 10 in the PL
Even in the City rout, they only truly scored 1 goal when Varane wasn't compromised. He came off after we were 0-3 down but he was out on the sideline being medically tended for the second goal and the third goal came when he was limping around and couldn't move well which allowed Haaland to get on the end of a sweet KDB ball almost unchallenged.In PL they stared 7 games, won 5 and kept 4 Cleansheets.
Arsenal, Liverpool and City scored when they played together.
Yeah, now with proper DM and CBs we are looking good defensively. Varane and Martinez both have done very good job this season.Even in the City rout, they only truly scored 1 goal when Varane wasn't compromised. He came off after we were 0-3 down but he was out on the sideline being medically tended for the second goal and the third goal came when he was limping around and couldn't move well which allowed Haaland to get on the end of a sweet KDB ball almost unchallenged.
Most likely next Thursday, against SheriffCan you imagine the day we go back to Maguire!
Love Varane and Martinez.
Just a different gravy
Yup 100% my shopping list as well. Ball playing CM and CF being the highest priority. Imagine we had a guy like Rooney against Spurs yesterday - it would've been a cricket score.We need to capitalize on this trio (including Casemiro) in some meaningful way in the next couple of years, before time catches up with them. Looking like potentially the best foundation we've had in donkeys years. Add a striker, a keeper and a ball playing CM in there and we could really go somewhere.
feck me how can anyone say this after last night?Love them both. Ice and Fire.
Varane feels like our next Captain. Rather him than Bruno.
With how DDG is playing , think we can park the requirement for now. A midfielder like FDJ, Striker like Osimhen and a defender like Timber.We need to capitalize on this trio (including Casemiro) in some meaningful way in the next couple of years, before time catches up with them. Looking like potentially the best foundation we've had in donkeys years. Add a striker, a keeper and a ball playing CM in there and we could really go somewhere.
Do you think Bruno's leadership contributed to our performance last night? He just comes across as a bit whiney and boring. If I were a United player I'd probably look up more to someone like Varane. A level headed guy who's well respected and has won it all.feck me how can anyone say this after last night?
Abso-fecking-lutely.Do you think Bruno's leadership contributed to our performance last night?
That's called a good performance, has nothing to do with leadership. I'm not in the dressing room so I wouldn't know how he's perceived by his teammates, but for me he comes across as very annoying.Abso-fecking-lutely.
Ran further than anyone on the pitch, won the ball back again and again, created 9 opportunities, encouraged his teammates, everything about it was a captain’s performance.
Leadership is as much about leading by example than being a likeable bloke in the dressing room. Last night had everything to do with leading by example.That's called a good performance, has nothing to do with leadership. I'm not in the dressing room so I wouldn't know how he's perceived by his teammates, but for me he comes across as very annoying.
Regarding Fernandes’ role as captain amid Harry Maguire’s absences, he said: “That’s also one of the things [he’s impressed me with], I think he’s really an example.
“The way he transfers the way of play from us, how he motivates around him, how he is the example, so the energy he gives to the team, that’s really good and so I’m happy with his performance. I know it will come, his goals and assists, and it will be even more.”
eh, we’ve played the best teams in the league already. And I think we’ve seen enough to say that any team that comes to play Sam Allardyce chuck it up top type of football against us and is successful in doing it is just that - a bad game here and there. these are due for any team and wouldn’t necessarily be an indictment on this partnership and certainly not because of a perceived lack of height. I’m sure that even when we had nba height CB partnerships we lost the odd game to long ball extraordinaire type teamsTechnically i like it very much but the height issue (lack of) is going to bite us in the ass at some point in this league.
Older caf, you think I didnt watch these players?Maybe not so much but he doesnt have the presence of a Vidic, Stam, Rio, Pallister or Bruce and IMO a lot of the older CAF would agree
Not picking a fight mate. Just an assumtion. Settle downOlder caf, you think I didnt watch these players?
An incorrect assumption about someones age or knowlegde is never JUST an assumption.Not picking a fight mate. Just an assumtion. Settle down
I’m actually dreading it. Because the truth is it’s coming and it’ll be coming more often than we want it to. Even if Martinez and Varane stay fit, they can’t possibly play every game.Can you imagine the day we go back to Maguire!
Love Varane and Martinez.
Just a different gravy
I really hope he has a good World Cup and forces a move.I’m actually dreading it. Because the truth is it’s coming and it’ll be coming more often than we want it to. Even if Martinez and Varane stay fit, they can’t possibly play every game.
Well captains need to string it all together more often than not right. Bruno isn’t consistent right now and it costs us a lot of games when he’s below par and giving possession up every few minutes in some games.Abso-fecking-lutely.
Ran further than anyone on the pitch, won the ball back again and again, created 9 opportunities, encouraged his teammates, everything about it was a captain’s performance.
And yet it's more important to be able to dominate games and defend on the front foot with aggressive tackling and top tier distribution than it is to be tall in your own box. The one chance a team might get from hoofing it to a lump of a striker against us 20 times is worth it if we dominate them the other 19 with Martinez snuffing everything out and playing line breaking passes.IMO I think it does. The PL hasnt changed that much and its going to start to show against teams that have a target man. And there about 10 in the PL
Bruno’s been pretty consistent this season and is absolutely miles better at keeping the ball under ETH. Since Brentford we have the second best record in the league after all.Well captains need to string it all together more often than not right. Bruno isn’t consistent right now and it costs us a lot of games when he’s below par and giving possession up every few minutes in some games.