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This is literally a Limmy sketch
This is literally a Limmy sketch
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The people detaining him in the video are civilians.Tweet
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Ahhh I just couldn’t resist
Twitter makes me laugh. From a ten second clip with no volume and no actual view of this person being restrained on the floor. We’ve got the following..
- racist assault by security on black 15 year old
- Sussex police kidnap on black 15 year old
- you’re not allowed to handcuff children
- Superdrug racism
- Superdrug boycott
Never disappoint Twitter.
I also find it truly astonishing in this day and age that people become so outraged about teenagers being restrained/detained. We live in a country where 15-17 year olds walk around with knives killing fellow teenagers. 15-17 year old drug dealers dealing drugs to teenagers. 15-17 year old boys selling teenage girls into sex trafficking rings. 15-17 year olds committing knife point robberies. Record one being restrained/detained put it on Twitter and people act like it’s the worse thing they’ve ever seen.
Do you have any proof for saying that? Lets say a report of some sort?They’ve proven time and time again they cannot be trusted.
No offence but you literally have no idea what you're talking about.The people detaining him in the video are civilians.
They should not be using handcuffs.
They are not trained to use handcuffs.
It is not legal for them to detain using handcuffs.
The boy detained is a child.
The boy the police decided to arrest, despite upon arrival witnessing a different crime, is a child.
His mother is his legal guardian.
His mother had no idea where he was when he was in custody and the police would not tell her.
His mother or father is the only appropriate adult to be with him.
You’re willing to take what the police say at face value, others are not. They’ve proven time and time again they cannot be trusted.
Let’s wait and see what the real story is when all the facts have come out.
I don’t think it is illegal.The people detaining him in the video are civilians.
They should not be using handcuffs.
They are not trained to use handcuffs.
It is not legal for them to detain using handcuffs.
The boy detained is a child.
The boy the police decided to arrest, despite upon arrival witnessing a different crime, is a child.
His mother is his legal guardian.
His mother had no idea where he was when he was in custody and the police would not tell her.
His mother or father is the only appropriate adult to be with him.
You’re willing to take what the police say at face value, others are not. They’ve proven time and time again they cannot be trusted.
Let’s wait and see what the real story is when all the facts have come out.
Well said, bro!No offence but you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
That's clearly security with some form of badges. There is no law in the UK that says you can't use handcuffs or that you need to be trained to use handcuffs, as in what the hell are you talking about? You would just need to justify using them. It should be patently obvious that a lot of security in shops, clubs, bars, hospitals etc sometimes carry handcuffs due to the potential risky people they deal with and they can use them if necessary.
It is definitely legal and you are definitely allowed to detain someone suspected of committing a indictable offence if you're not a police officer.
The boy detained is a child? And? There is no law against arresting or restraining a 15 year old boy. As said previously, 15 year old boys commit serious crimes.
"The boy the police decided to arrest, despite upon arrival witnessing a different crime, is a child."
What?
You're not willing to take what police say at face value, that's fine. I'm not willing to take what a random woman says on twitter at face value.
"His mother or father is the only appropriate adult to be with him."
Honestly, where are you getting this stuff from and presenting it as facts? An appropriate adult most certainly does not have to be a mother and father, in fact there are occasions where a mother or father would not even be allowed to act as an appropriate adult if deemed inappropriate (criminal history/drunk etc).
His mother had no idea where he was when he was in custody and the police would not tell her.
You’re willing to take what the police say at face value, others are not. They’ve proven time and time again they cannot be trusted.
Let’s wait and see what the real story is when all the facts have come out.
Right, so until the full story comes out, we must believe that this mothers 15 year old son was looking for shampoo in a shop, was followed by a Superdrug staff member and security who were all racists and decided to attack this boy for no reason. Placing him in handcuffs. They've then called the police, who have come along, covered up this story and kidnapped the 15 year old and refused to tell his mum where they're holding him? And then gone on twitter and lied about an altercation between a group of kids in the shop where one of them has assaulted staff, okay then.
CSE is news to you? really… Google it. Have a look at child gangs, county lines etc if you want to paint the full picture.I'd like to know who these underage teenage boys selling teenage girls for sex are, because that's news to me. Or all these sia security guards walking round with handcuffs, as someone who's worked in hospitality for over a decade I've never seen that anywhere.
Who a part of this case is even suggesting Sussex police have kidnapped the boy?
Just some terrible shouts imo, the day after a very damning report for a sister police force.
I'm not saying sexual exploitation of children's doesn't exist, I'm saying show me where a 15 year old boy has trafficked a fellow 15 year girl, or else you're chatting out your arse to make a point.CSE is news to you? really… Google it. Have a look at child gangs, county lines etc if you want to paint the full picture.
I’ve worked in policing for six years, bars for another four. I can assure you some members of security staff carry handcuffs. I have seen countless people in cuffs in particularly aggy clubs and bars. Also seen them used in hospitals.
The video states her child did nothing and was taken by police and not told where he was held. By definition that would be kidnap.
Terrible shouts? Hmm not really. Just you know stuff that goes on, that tbh I thought most people knew about.
The only person talking bullshit is you to be frank. Implying that I'm making stuff up that exists in plain sight. You have the internet, youtube, you can see it for yourself. Everything I'm talking about is there... But just to play along.I'm not saying sexual exploitation of children's doesn't exist, I'm saying show me where a 15 year old boy has trafficked a fellow 15 year girl, or else you're chatting out your arse to make a point.
In what capacity did you work in bars? I find it very hard to believe youve seen "countless" people in handcuffs (that have been provided by security and not police). You're not calling the police everytime you find drugs on a customer so wtf was going on in all these bars you worked in for 4 years?
It's not kidnap at all. It's negligence. They've not "stolen" a child for ransom or for some other reason. Clearly they've been unprofessional and havent done their due diligence or filled out correct details and they can't track down exactly where he is. In what world is that kidnap? Or again are you trying to make some bullshit point?
Didn't ask what could happen, I asked for a point blank, clear example of an underage teenage boy selling an underage teenage girl. What you described isn't even that.The only person talking bullshit is you to be frank. Implying that I'm making stuff up that exists in plain sight. You have the internet, youtube, you can see it for yourself. Everything I'm talking about is there... But just to play along.
I mean I cant actually believe I'm about to explain a teenage boys involvement in how CSE/child gangs works to an adult...especially to one who obviously believes he's well in tuned.
So you have these college/high school boys right who unfortunately have come to the decision to live a materialistic/gangster lifestyle, whether that be through bad influence, broken homes, poverty etc. They start hanging around older gang members who give them things. In return the boys sell their drugs for them and get them young teenage girls. These boys wear designer clothing, have phones, cash etc which in turn gets the attention of teenage females. The teenage boys then introduce the young girls to the older guys who in turn introduce them to a life of drugs and alcohol. This eventually leads to the girl being used by not just the young gang member but by the elders for CSE...The young boys would receive payment. Again though man there's just loads of programmes, documentaries on this stuff.
I worked in bars, and a few rough ones. They would have security guards with accessible handcuffs in a few of them. I worked as a street cop and would turn up to clubs where people were literally in handcuffs being detained by bouncers for either selling drugs, carrying knives or sexually assaulting women. I would then take these handcuffs off them and return to them to security and then arrest them. I am not making this stuff up, it happened, it happens.
Christ on a bike, I was obviously exaggerating to make a point with the kidnap stuff. The point being the story was so ridiculous that it was simply not believable. Like ffs I know, I get it, police are fecking up majorly at the minute but the story presented with the video is obviously not going to be what actually happened.
Wouldn't that be a criminal offence?Security guards generally don't walk around with handcuffs, I don't know where you've got this from but this isn't a common occurrence in the UK.
It's not an offence but if you were to use handcuffs youd need good reason otherwise you could face a charge if I'm not mistaken.Wouldn't that be a criminal offence?
Reporting my previous post, claimin you’re not going to discuss it any longer and yet here you are back again posting absolute bullshit. Bollocks post after bollocks post.It's not an offence but if you were to use handcuffs youd need good reason otherwise you could face a charge if I'm not mistaken.
In terms of SIA accredited security, they don't encourage or discourage security from using handcuffs officially. But no bouncer is going to use cuffs willy nilly, it's not a thing. They don't carry them around on shift. You're opening yourself up to a world of issues with that. It's an utterly bizarre thing to lie about but here we are.
They would have security guards with accessible handcuffs in a few of them
You really really need to actually read posts and take in what people say before you choose to plant your flag. It’s just really bad and lazy posting. When did I say that they carry them every shift?You would just need to justify using them. It should be patently obvious that a lot of security in shops, clubs, bars, hospitals etc sometimes carry handcuffs due to the potential risky people they deal with and they can use them if necessary.
Handcuffs and the law is quite interesting.Wouldn't that be a criminal offence?
I didn't report your post at all pal, I personally love it when someone reverts to petty insults because it means you're right.Reporting my previous post, claimin you’re not going to discuss it any longer and yet here you are back again posting absolute bullshit. Bollocks post after bollocks post.
You keep implying I said they all carry it and it’s the norm. Here is what I actually said.
You really really need to actually read posts and take in what people say before you choose to plant your flag. It’s just really bad and lazy posting. When did I say that they carry them every shift?
I have explained already the situations where I’ve come across them being used. If you were actually taking in what I’m saying and putting two and two together you would understand that I am more likely to see security using handcuffs then the average person like yourself would see. But you are literally incapable of taking in what is being said to you. This isn’t the first and it won’t be the last…
It’s such an appalling style of posting, being so adamant about things when the knowledge isn’t there to back it up.
Despite my posts in this thread you were still asking if I was from the U.K. and you did the exact same thing in a previous thread discussing a policing topic.
You couldn’t get your head around the reasoning behind me describing it as a kidnap. It was so so simple to work out what my point was and yet you completely missed it and then as per you chose to die on that hill. Accusing people of lying when you can’t even be bothered to READ and TAKE things properly is a really bad look. Before you march into threads expressing superior knowledge on topics actually take time out to read what you’re replying to in full context.
What makes this all so ironic is that for someone who seems to present as a fact craver. You said nothing about the post I initially quoted which contained several bits of false information and laws that don’t even exist but for some strange reason you got all obsessive over me mentioning teenage sex trafficking and security using handcuffs. I guess my post wasn’t really anti police/law and so you took issue with that.
Right, as if your ego would allow you to not read it.I didn't report your post at all pal, I personally love it when someone reverts to petty insults because it means you're right.
Not reading any of that because it's a waste of time btw.
When I worked on doors the priority was always to get troublemakers out of the club, the last thing you wanted to do on a busy Friday night is tie people up detaining somebody. Only if it was something really serious would police be called and as we were in a city centre theyd usually be waiting by the time we got to the door. I don't remember ever seeing cuffs and it definitely wasn't part of the SIA course, officially no restraint techniques were.It's not an offence but if you were to use handcuffs youd need good reason otherwise you could face a charge if I'm not mistaken.
In terms of SIA accredited security, they don't encourage or discourage security from using handcuffs officially. But no bouncer is going to use cuffs willy nilly, it's not a thing. They don't carry them around on shift. You're opening yourself up to a world of issues with that. It's an utterly bizarre thing to lie about but here we are.
Exactly. Literally not a thing you'd see "countless" times but hey ho what do I know.When I worked on doors the priority was always to get troublemakers out of the club, the last thing you wanted to do on a busy Friday night is tie people up detaining somebody. Only if it was something really serious would police be called and as we were in a city centre theyd usually be waiting by the time we got to the door. I don't remember ever seeing cuffs and it definitely wasn't part of the SIA course, officially no restraint techniques were.
Disgusting but honestly I'm not shocked.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65081765.amp
Just gonna leave this here. Children as young as 8 being strip searched…8. EIGHT. In more than half of the instances, no appropriate adult confirmed to be present…and of course, more likely to happen to black children. 51% of searches leading to NFA. Jesus.
Just a bad apple
He looks like a nice guy.
It shows you how low the Met has sunk when they hire someone called "Ireland"Ireland Murdock?! What kind of name is that
look at them in their little safe haven patting each other on the back…
Two posters who genuinely think a viable solution to solving the issues in the met is to defund and reform. Christ.
This is why it’s hard for me to believe there’s any good’uns…they don’t last long.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-london-65189471
Listening to LBC with former officers talking about how when they spoke up they were left to rot, and colleagues wouldn't come to help when they called for back up
This the same kind of logic you applied with your Eriksen thread posts?
If that's how you approach a conflict i think we might see you in one of these articles soon.
Especially Dixon of Dock Green. Nasty piece of work.I’m beginning to think the police might not be virtuous organisation we thought they were.
Evening all.Especially Dixon of Dock Green. Nasty piece of work.