Did you read the article? He even said he'd have agreed to leave at the end of the season, back in January. It seems like he was more than willing to cooperate. And your other points about signings etc. are pointless. Bad signings doesn't mean a manager deserves to be sacked in an inappropriate way.
Van Gaal slams United for sacking him, AGAIN!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
That's the nature of football. It's unfair to use that to deny him props.
The leaking during the final is what doesn't sit well with me.
Who in their right mind thought that was the right thing to do?
He made watching us play an absolute chore and I will always resent him for that.
Gary Neville and Paul Scholes must have been there brain washing the fans in the ground and acting as ring leaders.
No, we were absolutely right not to tell him. The performances might actually get worse, there is every reason to believe so and we actually got that FA cup in the end. You don't go and tell the manager in the middle of the season that he will get fired.
The only thing wrong about it was the timing or the leaking to the press on the day we won the FA cup. And that is also doubtful how much was on us. I assume we could have done it in a more discrete way but that's about it.
I think he's right. I think I remember him boasting in one of his first press conferences that he wanted/asked for a two year, but United insisted on three.
Pep gone , klopp gone, Anchelotti gone, Pocehtino with tott, We could only hire conte if Mourinho had not been sacked. But I think we would have completed his tenure, then we would hire new manager.
We could have hired mourinho in january itself and secured top 4 but we continued with lvg until the end of the season is an indication for me to think that way.
It would not have been awful decision though, We would have bought the right players. Specially mane. People forget that at the time LVG got his players Not manay players were available in the market which would come to united, not pogba not mkh or matic. Darmian is a gabriel heienze case who is struggling to adapt in this league but in other league he would be a good player.
I've mellowed to him after watching us serve the same (and at times worse) shit last season.
It was an absolutely disgraceful thing to do that. No doubt about it.
Whoever leaked that to the press on cup final day is an arsehole.
I didn't have much time for LVG at all. His tenure was a disaster. But the old boy should have been allowed to bask in the glory of the cup final win without that news hanging over his head.
The personal hate against lvg on the cafe is disturbing for me.
Completely agree with this, it was painful to watch us.
Cmon. He took a dive for the team. Give the man some slack.
Of course he knew Mourhino was coming, they are best mates!
It would not surprise me if in years to come we find out that about mid November/December Louis texted Jose and said "Today offered to resign at OT, but told by Ed to hang on until end of season, so my advice ditch Chelsea and be ready to join United for new season. Best wishes LvG"
Well he's probably pissed about being played along about preparing for next season. Useless scouting, preseason preparation which wouldn't be used as he's not going to be there anyway. So he could have just fully focused on the on-field crap.
There is no way we were as bad to watch last season, never mind worse.
Still, given what he drummed into the players it's hardly surprising it's taken Jose a while to change things up.
Would have preferred if he kept a 'Greta Garbo' silence, however he didn't say anything bad in his comments. It was all fair comments, and he didn't make any excuses for his below the par performance, so need for anyone to get upset.
It was horrible the way they did the sacking and I do agree they should have told him before. I don't think it needed to have been made public ala Pep and City, and I do believe he would still have carried on much the same way and tried to do his best (which ultimately wasn't good enough).
What was interesting for me was that he didn't blame Mourinho (at least I'm assuming there is no more to come from this interview). I know it seems that the leak came from Mourinho's people, but I'm inclined to believe it's 50/50 and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't actually come from Woodward himself.
In any case it's done, and I wish him the best. Hopefully, no more interviews on United...
It was horrible the way they did the sacking and I do agree they should have told him before. I don't think it needed to have been made public ala Pep and City, and I do believe he would still have carried on much the same way and tried to do his best (which ultimately wasn't good enough).
What was interesting for me was that he didn't blame Mourinho (at least I'm assuming there is no more to come from this interview). I know it seems that the leak came from Mourinho's people, but I'm inclined to believe it's 50/50 and wouldn't be surprised if it didn't actually come from Woodward himself.
In any case it's done, and I wish him the best. Hopefully, no more interviews on United...
We are not city right? United is reguarded in high esteem amongst top managers and woodward did not handle it in classy way. I was similar with moyes, it was leaked out before the manager knew.
Lvg sis make some mistakes in recruitment but bought and targeted some very good players too which mourinho might not have bought and i am sure of it , specially Martial. And got mane. Weather he would have promoted Rashford too is a question. Di maria was used wrong and he never wanted to come here , he has typical south american mentality which every one of those players had. Lvg Got romero for free too. Bailly was a united signing or a mourinho signing is not known. Valdes was typical thing which mourinho also is doing with ibra although his injury happened after he played for us.
Exactly, it's the hypocrisy of the board that he's pissed with. Saying one thing to his face and then doing another. In any case it's football, so he shouldn't have expected anything else.
Woodward should have sacked him about 6 months earlier. Fraud of a a manager.
knowing the nature of the managerial merry-go-round, had Mourinho not been sacked at Chelsea, we'd probably have Conte as our manager now.
I could understand it if the criticism was unjustified, but it wasn't. We were a fecking shambles, playing the most mind numbingly Boring football I've seen from United.
Most fans/pundits would have put up with it if the boring style of football had resulted in us winning most games, but as we all know, that wasn't the case.
My only criticism of Woodward and the board is not sacking him sooner. Virtually every top club in Europe would have sacked him in the December of that season.
What a great man. He got sacked twice at bayern, twice at Barcelona, once with us and he won just 1 cl. Thats nearly making the 8
Yes i read the article. Did you read the post in this thread with evidence of his history at Bayern and how he fared after they told him he would leave? Or the posts that mentions the reports back in 2014 when we had meetings with him while Moyes was still in charge? He didn't mind it then, did he? So lets not be hypocrites, will you? What he says now, i wouldn't give it much attention.
My points about his signings are pointless? I just pointed out one bad aspect of his spell here that led directly to the sacking, if you deem it pointless so be it.
Its football, But its not United values. We were unique in that sense and we are that unique club in world football. The way he's talking reflects he held the club in high esteem and was proud to be the united manager but he was disappointed by the way woodward kept him in the dark. A Football's iconic manager was strong enough to handle the truth for 6 months and give it all. He largely understood the decision to hire mourinho.
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What are you going on about? I've said twice now that I'm criticising how early in the season the stick from Scholes and Neville came, not LvG's response to it. It was already coming before the Arsenal game and it lead to leaks in the press in the build up to that game and after. It came at a time when it was unnecessary and put unneeded pressure on the team.
The stick went right back to a CL qualifier we had won 3 or 4-0 and Scholes was sat hunched over mumbling about a lack pace on the flanks, it not being what he likes and bunch of other nonsense. Totally unnecessary and it even backed Scholes into a corner with BT presenters looking to him to deliver all the headline criticism further down the line.
Along with Moyes, Van Gaal will be remembered as Utd's worst ever manager. Both of them were to Utd what Souness was to Liverpool. He was that bad. Spent a fortune on mediocrity while he sold superior players like Chicharito, Evans, Welbeck, Kagawa for peanuts. Played the worst style of football not only ever seen at Utd but in the history of all leagues in the UK. Like Moyes his methods were the opposite of what Utd is about and he was 20 years out of date with his methods. Moyes was different in that his methods suited clubs like West Brom, or the Wimbeldon team of the 90's who only had one tactic to pump the ball into the box into some giant brain-dead monster to get on the end of it.
Van Gaal should have been sacked long before he was but I honestly think Ed was seriously thinking to give him a final 3rd season if he made the top 4 and that was only confirmed on the last day of the season so that's why the board rightly waited. Thank God he never got that 3rd season as there'd have been no Europa League win, No Pogba, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Matic - Christ he would have done unfixable damage had he stayed a 3rd season.
Van Gaal should have been sacked long before he was but I honestly think Ed was seriously thinking to give him a final 3rd season if he made the top 4 and that was only confirmed on the last day of the season so that's why the board rightly waited. Thank God he never got that 3rd season as there'd have been no Europa League win, No Pogba, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Matic - Christ he would have done unfixable damage had he stayed a 3rd season.
I liked Louis, and was hoping he wouldn't be as bitter towards the club as he clearly is. He can't complain about the sack, but we should've plugged the leak and waited a few days.
Well, he should have resigned earlier then.
At times, especially from January onwards, it wasn't too far off. Of course, understandably, many people were falling over themselves to claim otherwise in support of yet another manager we obviously don't want to see make an arse of it. Ultimately, though, we scored less goals than Bournemouth and approached games with our rivals already defeated. Mourinho was piss poor in the league and there's no doubt about that.
It seems to be getting better, mind you.
We should have told him 6 months earlier.
Yes I understand perfectly the way he thinks and how United is seen (or was) in football. However, the business is full of shite people so he cannot have been all that surprised. I would say he sounds disappointed because maybe he saw United as being 'different', but found otherwise.
I do agree that he would have been able to handle the truth for 6 months. He had that much respect for the club that I don't believe he would have done anything unprofessional during that time to derail our season any further.
I can't complain about him being manager, just the way he handled the management.
Yeah I agree. But once it was clear we wanted him to win us the FA cup, we should have let the man have the night to enjoy it. I think we announced it like 8:30 that evening.
He actually does criticize us for sacking him.
He also criticised us for how we sacked him.
He also criticised us for how we sacked him.
And you can still like him, he's not bitter about the club, or making excuses - he's only upset about the way his sacking was handled.
As I said, a lot of that is down to LvG and his methods. Piss poor is a little harsh, given that we f*cked the league off while still in contention for the top 4, in order to concentrate on the EL.
That really isn't true mate. We drew far to many home games last season which was unacceptable, but we were never as boring to watch as we were under LVG.
Most of our problems last year game down to poor finishing from everyone other than Zlatan. We created plenty of chances but were abysmal at putting the ball in the net.
Under LVG chances were few and far between and it was all about possession possession possession, or as I call it zzzzzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzzz the cure for insomnia.
Not true
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-louis-van-gaal-leaves-manchester-united.aspx
Two days later.
Remember when we went multiple games without even mustering a shot on target? *shudders*
Mourinho's availability led to his sacking.