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He wasn't great for most of SAF's last season. He was poor during Moyes' reign. He was mediocre to poor (mainly poor) in LvG's first season. We've had 3 years of his apathetic performances. It's time to move him on, the sooner the better, and reinvest that money in a Lewandowski, or Benzema.

He is like Gerrard in his last couple of seasons for Liverpool.
If Rooney was poor during the Moyes' reign then I dread to think what other players were considering he was our best outfield player.

And yeah, just go and take Lewandowski or Benzema, like it's that easy. :houllier:
 

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LOL. This thread is quite hilarious, it has almost become a fashion statement to veil the credit for Rooney with just the right amount of negativity so as not to be hunted down and hung as some sort of Rooney lover. Jesus christ he had a pretty good game and we still have people trying in desperation to paint him as eternally shit. I don't think I will ever understand it, fans of your own club who have more desire to hope a player is shit than enjoy when a player is not.

I now have no idea what it will be like if Rooney returns to some sort of vein of form. People won't know what to do with themselves.

And with that, goes your credibility in this thread.
By that logic, so does yours if you really like him as a person and a footballer, which you evidently do. feck off. An opinion is an opinion, and I stated within the post of mine you quoted, that I would much rather him have a cracker of a season and be proved wrong than the other way round. Quite convenient of you to leave out the bulk of the post and focus on that line.

He's been crap since Tottenham last season and constantly in and out of form for two seasons. The problem is when he is out of form, he is atrocious, and he is out of form more than any other top footballer out there. Not many people would argue with that fact or that his 'top level' when he does play to it, is world class. The problem is we are seeing far less of that top level in recent years. Obviously I have my concerns. As people have said, there seems to be really low standards of Rooney recently. There was definitely an improvement on the Villa game against Brugge but the flick aside, it was another generally under par performance. With the level of the opponent and their defensive injuries considered, you would have expected our attackers to have a field day against them. Depay certainly did, but Rooney was average except for one or two good moments.

That flick sums up Rooney as a footballer for the past two seasons. Capable of moments of brilliance but they distract from the rest of his declining game and are becoming rarer and rarer.
 
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If Rooney was poor during the Moyes' reign then I dread to think what other players were considering he was our best outfield player.

And yeah, just go and take Lewandowski or Benzema, like it's that easy. :houllier:
He wasn't our best outfield player. RvP was (when not injured).

Reinvest - this means money/proceeds/cash freed up from Rooney leaving should be put to a bid for either one of those outlined. It's not that hard to understand that.
 

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Definitely. I think the difference this season is his perceived lack of goals (i say perceived because the season is only a few games old) means he's more vulnerable to criticism now.

Those of us who have been critical of him in the past have often bemoaned his all round plays, even with the goals he's scored. An Arsenal supporting friend of mine who doesn't watch United often wondered why I was complaining about Rooney when he was on the score sheets every other week.

I still think he'll score his minimum share of goals and that's good enough for me until he leaves the club.
This
 

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Headline makes it sound like there are people within the club who fear Rooney's in permanent decline, but the article says nothing of the sort.

As I said in a previous post - Rooney will soon be 30, and has played an awful lot of football. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he is starting to decline to the point where he's no longer good enough to be a regular starter for a club with league and Champions League ambitions.

But I still take articles like this with a pinch of salt. They're always based on romanticizing the young Rooney, forgetting that he had plenty of periods of indifferent form (relative to his best standards) in his teens and early 20s; and you see them every time he's not scoring.

In 2006 when he was a mere 20 years old; in 2010 when he was the grand old age of 25; and in 2012 when he was a decrepit 27.

He's been written off more times than George Michael's Range Rover, and always come back to defy the critics. I wouldn't be surprised if he does it this season as well.
 

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Playing him as per his shirt number would be his best position atm.
For this to work we need a solid # 9. Chicho perhaps. But I think he will be gone.
Wilson..probably a year away.
The fact we are on the lookout for a striker says we will (hope) to be bringing one in this window.
 

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Playing him as per his shirt number would be his best position atm.
For this to work we need a solid # 9. Chicho perhaps. But I think he will be gone.
Wilson..probably a year away.
The fact we are on the lookout for a striker says we will (hope) to be bringing one in this window.
He asked to be played as the striker though and has always maintained that is the position he prefers..We also have far too many players that can play 10, and he's the main no9 in the squad..

I think 10 should be Fellaini when he comes back, he adds an extra dimension both in defence( Will compensate massively for Blind's height) and in attack..plus he has fantastic energy in midfield too..and provides consistent goal scoring ability( Was top scorer at Everton the season before he got here) , things Rooney wont really offer us...that is not to say that Fellaini is better than Rooney, but in this current setup he would offer us more.
 

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He asked to be played as the striker though and has always maintained that is the position he prefers..We also have far too many players that can play 10, and he's the main no9 in the squad..

I think 10 should be Fellaini when he comes back, he adds an extra dimension both in defence( Will compensate massively for Blind's height) and in attack..plus he has fantastic energy in midfield too..and provides consistent goal scoring ability( Was top scorer at Everton the season before he got here) , things Rooney wont really offer us...that is not to say that Fellaini is better than Rooney, but in this current setup he would offer us more.
and he may well get us the goals from playing as an out and out striker.

If Memphis keeps up what he showed in the last match, Rooney may find more space.
A great player like Rooney does not become crap over a few matches.
I have never measured him based solely on the goals he has scored. He brings a lot more to the team.
 

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and he may well get us the goals from playing as an out and out striker.

If Memphis keeps up what he showed in the last match, Rooney may find more space.
A great player like Rooney does not become crap over a few matches.
I have never measured him based solely on the goals he has scored. He brings a lot more to the team.
He really needs to step up though..for a few years now, I think the goals have masked other issues in his game which without the goals have become highly magnified..Luis Suarez'perfomance against us during the preseason..He didnt score , but that was a brilliant attacking perfomance and ran our defense ragged..thats what we are looking for.

I agree with your post about Memphis, if he can almost bring the attention on himself, the defender's can focus more on him and with his pace and movement could offer avenues for the other fowards. Lets hope that Mempis really kicks on too. The addition of Fellaini really always draws defenders towards( Ho0w can you not as a defender) and I really think he allows the rest of the team to play better..so a front four of

Rooney
Memphis Mata
Fellaini
 

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and he may well get us the goals from playing as an out and out striker.

If Memphis keeps up what he showed in the last match, Rooney may find more space.
A great player like Rooney does not become crap over a few matches.
I have never measured him based solely on the goals he has scored. He brings a lot more to the team.
No, but he's become crap over a few seasons.

Currently what he brings to the team seems to be a lack of penetration, an inability to hold the ball up, poor movement and some shockingly bad passing.
 

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But I still take articles like this with a pinch of salt. They're always based on romanticizing the young Rooney, forgetting that he had plenty of periods of indifferent form (relative to his best standards) in his teens and early 20s; and you see them every time he's not scoring.

In 2006 when he was a mere 20 years old; in 2010 when he was the grand old age of 25; and in 2012 when he was a decrepit 27.
The thing is though, as you can see from the previous articles you've linked to, it has never been uncommon for Rooney to go on scoring droughts and he generally scores in bursts. As he is our main goal threat this season and Van Gaal has placed all his trust in him we can't really have him going 6+ games without a goal a few times a season. We can't just shrug and say this is how he's always been, he is captain now, gets paid more than anyone else and promised Van Gaal he'd get the goals. He is rightly going to be under huge scrutiny this season.
 

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Tired of him for a while now. Yes i love united, yes i know what he has done over the years. No, i don't trust him anymore.
 

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Football 365:

Number of times Rooney lost possession against Aston Villa: 13

Number of times Rooney lost possession against Brugge: 13

Also...

Rooney has 1 goal in his last 723 competitive minutes for Utd.
 

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Hoping he bags a couple tomorrow to restore his form and confidence.

I'm not completely sure whether he can be a top striker again but as things stand we desperately need him to and much of our season's fortunes depend on him.
 

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The thing is he's never been one to really look after himself so it's not surprising he would have an early deterioration. We've just got rid of RvP who was suffering decline, if we have other options come available Rooney won't last long.

I just hope we don't end up trying to shoehorn him into midfield. Fergie knew the score
 

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Those who live by the sword etc.....

Rooney said "match my ambitions or Im off" so we did.

Now its Utd to say "Match OUR ambitions or you are off"

It works both ways.
 

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Those who live by the sword etc.....

Rooney said "match my ambitions or Im off" so we did.

Now its Utd to say "Match OUR ambitions or you are off"

It works both ways.
Not when he has a contract to 2019 and no other club in their right minds would pay his £250k+ a week wages.
 

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Not when he has a contract to 2019 and no other club in their right minds would pay his £250k+ a week wages.
Whack him in the reserves for a month and that shitc**t of an agent of his would be agitating for a move, I guarantee it.
 

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Whack him in the reserves for a month and that shitc*nt of an agent of his would be agitating for a move, I guarantee it.
And is there anyone that would offer anything remotely close to what we pay him? Why would Wayne move somewhere to earn say £120k a week on a 3 year contract when he could earn roughly £300k a week for the next 4 years sat in the reserves.

I think what's more likely, if he has indeed declined, is we'll marginalise him into a squad player and sign a big striker to take his place. If you asked me now I think barring a dramatic dip in form, injuries permitting, we're gearing up to go big on Harry Kane this time next year. City and Chelsea already have Aguero and Costa and Arsenal have less chance than us negotiating with Levy. I can see Wayne being reinstated to the #10 position while Kane beds in as the main striker, then if Rooney declines further he'll be rotated as cover for both roles. All opinion of course.
 

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And is there anyone that would offer anything remotely close to what we pay him? Why would Wayne move somewhere to earn say £120k a week on a 3 year contract when he could earn roughly £300k a week for the next 4 years sat in the reserves.

I think what's more likely, if he has indeed declined, is we'll marginalise him into a squad player and sign a big striker to take his place. If you asked me now I think barring a dramatic dip in form, injuries permitting, we're gearing up to go big on Harry Kane this time next year. City and Chelsea already have Aguero and Costa and Arsenal have less chance than us negotiating with Levy. I can see Wayne being reinstated to the #10 position while Kane beds in as the main striker, then if Rooney declines further he'll be rotated as cover for both roles. All opinion of course.
Oh dear god I hope not!
 

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He is rightly going to be under huge scrutiny this season.
I don't disagree, but then he always has been, and is handsomely rewarded for it.

Maybe it's more in hope than expectation that I think there'll be a happy ending to the Wayne Rooney saga.
 

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Standards are so low these days. Almost 14 hours now. An offside goal doesn't count, as close as it was. Needs to stop pissing around dropping deep because it's only helping Newcastle have a comfortable stroll this afternoon.
 
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