This - people excusing him having no obvious pass as a reason for him losing the ball easily is just silly. Plenty of people try to counter and then wait for the rest to catch up without giving the ball back to the opposition.
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99% of Utd fans want Rooney dropped.
Why is he still in the team?
Clueless management
Why is he still in the team?
Clueless management
This is pretty much the truth. The only thing Rooney is capable of (and this is on the condition he stays up there and does what he's instructed to do), is knocking in goals. I think even his goal scoring ability isn't what it should be but I'd never doubt his ability to be a decent no.9 if the rest of the team was playing coherently enough to provide good clear chances for him.
As you say, the more Rooney involves himself, generally it seems the worse off (slow and plodding) the play becomes.
This is how I feel about all the none original posters, who rush to spout their bile on every single Rooney thread. It's tedious and some what embarrassing.
i fail to see any point in any Rooney thread now. Yes he's past his prime, no he's not really worthy of a starting place, but really how many times does it need to be said & what is the objective in posting the same shite over and over again?
The only repetitive stuff is when certain posters decide to be contrarian without any substance and the same arguments get started over again.
I'm not sure what the point of the thread is though if you mean posters mentioning his performances from the previous game? Isn't that the point of it?
If he plays well I'll have no trouble saying it.
Mourinho thinks very short term, if Rooney isn't up to standards he won't be in the team next week. So far he looks like being a key player for us,.
Martial was not more of a driving force in particular, he had an off day with the ball at his feet. Hopefully, fingers crossed he gets back to his best on Friday, If we are going to get anywhere this season he will be one of if not our key player.
It's only been one game and he's been subbed twice
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Whats embarrassing is some of the posters who think a goal masks his shit performances time and time again. Our bile is backed up by hard fact, we can see he is playing shit before our very eyes.. whereas posters who rush to defend him have no merit to their cause.
If he genuinely played well in a game, I would say he's played well.. in the past year I recall a few games where he genuinely was decent and I praised him like many others in this forum.
How can any respectable football fan watch our last game and think he genuinely had a good game, to the standard expected by Manchester United.. how can their opinions be taken seriously?
He's on about Martial. It is the bit above that line which you should be taking issue with.. 'looks like [he has successfully manipulated his way into] being a key player for us'.
My bad!
In one game? Impressive going.
Somebody on reddit made a compilation of his team of the week performance.
Not really. That's a compilation of every bad touch. There's another (much longer) video knocking round of his overall performance. Which give a more accurate impression of his game. Some bad bits. Some good bits. Not great but not terrible either.
It's pretty bad Pogue. Certainly not good enough for a number 10 starting every game
Hardly any good bit. I posted a video couple of pages back. He played like a drunk person would play.
That's our star man!
That man, our captain, earns up to £300k per week.
Yeah, I don't think it was good enough overall either.
That's a deliberately misleading video though. You could do a "lowlights" clip of every player, after almost every game, that would look similarly crap.
Christ on a bike the state of Rooney nowadays.
Feck me, it was even worse than I remembered it to be. The funny thing is this was massive progression from the Leicester-game. That may be one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a supposed to be top player.
Of course, but then there's context. Not every player gets the same undeserved luxury that Rooney is afforded in that they can have a game as shockingly bad as this, on a consistent basis over the past few years mind you, and still be a guaranteed starter regardless.
This isn't a one off game or him in some bad form; this is standard Rooney. Well, apart from when he's playing as a #8 where he's actually decent that is.
It's basically an average Rooney performance imo.
I'd love to see a similar video from that game against Villa last season. Some of the ways in which he was losing the ball were extraordinary.
Danny Murphy described that performance as 'superb' on Motd.
You're right in that this is not totally representative of how he was. The other video gives a better overall view. I would say though that you'd really struggle to find so many highlights of mistakes and lack of control for any other player, let alone someone who's a supposed talisman for their team. The horrendous lack of a first touch is difficult to miss.
Opposition players know how poor he is and they immediately gang up on him and win the ball back. His fear factor has completely dried up. I challenge you to come up with the "good bits" (plural). My memory or biased thinking might be working against me.
Come on Pogue FFS, this isn't a 'lowlight video'. Its a clip of what happened most of the times Rooney got the ball, someone posted a full video of every touch he had it wasn't much better.I've seen Ibra and Mata's videos of the same game, they didn't have great games but nothing compared to this shocker, if I could even call it that. This is the norm, and I'm pretty sure the Leicester game was worse
His performance at Villa Park last season is the worst I've ever seen him play and quite possibly the worst individual performance I've seen for Utd. He was so bad in that game, I think he he even admitted he was poor.
A compilation of that performance would have to rated NSFW.
This is definitely happening. He's being singled out to be put under pressure. The number of times Leicester attempted a counter after getting the ball off him was concerning.
Of course its a lowlight video.
Honestly, I find it a little ridiculous the lengths people will go to to criticise Rooney. He looks bad enough in the full video without having to amplify the criticism tenfold just to make the point.
Is there anything special in the full video to make any signifcance to this video?Like the few successfull 2 yards sideways passses?
That back pass to de Gea. That was the only convincing bit of play from this whole compilationyes but stats say he had a good game, Danny Murphy said 'superb'. Naturally this irks people
"I've nothing to prove to anyone," Rooney told Sky Sports.
I agree, but would they be so long? That is many touches and passes that he screwed up.
Edit: and apart from a header of moderate difficulty, there isn't much else in a potential highlights video to offset this either.
If you look at Zlatan, you have terrible losses of possession, bad pace, but you have a few good passes (including the one to Rooney here), a goal out of nothing, and some muscular hold-up play.
OTOH, Martial, who I thought was as bad as Rooney, had a couple of good runs to compensate for some horrendously misplaced passes, poor shots, and bad dribbles.
Either way he certainly didn't put in a performance worthy of being in the team of the week. It emphasises the media bias towards him.
True. Who picked him in team of the week?
Tell that to ivanovic, he was utterly dogshit last season and Mourinhou inexplicably trusted him .
I can see same thing happening here. Rooney can literally shit on the field and somehow get away with it.
Not sure if it's been posted but rumours circulating that he wants an improved contract, earning even more cash. Pogba, Ibra, Mkhitryan, Bailly - yet if Ed gives Rooney a contract extension I will go back to having the opinion that he is clueless.
Everything he offered us last game, Mata could do, much better even. The time it takes him to control the ball and then release it or turn isn't practical for a number 10 playing in a team that aims to be a dominant force in Europe again.
Pogba, Ibra, Mkhitryan, Bailly - yet if Ed gives Rooney a contract extension I will go back to having the opinion that he is clueless.Everything he offered us last game, Mata could do, much better even. The time it takes him to control the ball and then release it or turn isn't practical for a number 10 playing in a team that aims to be a dominant force in Europe again.
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