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Funnily enough defeating Corbyn might the catalyst for defeating himself!How the feck can a pledge be to "defeat Jeremy Corbyn!" ??
Funnily enough defeating Corbyn might the catalyst for defeating himself!How the feck can a pledge be to "defeat Jeremy Corbyn!" ??
As a Tory member? But the rest of the electorate couldn't.I voted for Johnson
2022 at the moment.When is the next election?
Scheduled to be 2022. Could be sooner if there are more defections.When is the next election?
Tory members certainly don't mind sacrificing it for their version of Brexit.Will there be a Union left if a no-Brexit deal ends up badly over the next few years?
Oh gosh, that's too long.2022 at the moment.
Yes. I am no great fan but it came down to a choice of manager v leader. Load's will argue on here but Johnson is at least a bit can-do. I am hoping that the civil service knocks him into shape on some of his wayward traits.As a Tory member? But the rest of the electorate couldn't.
They won't renegotiate the WA but could give another extension. Depends on Boris's behaviour I would guess.I hope that the EU will now stop this charade by refusing to give an extension or negotiate the withdrawal agreement.
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Because he can be sure his mates in our esteemed press won't call him out on being able to try and achieve this tomorrow if he called an election.How the feck can a pledge be to "defeat Jeremy Corbyn!" ??
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He probably won't last that long.Oh gosh, that's too long.
I hope so, he's gonna ruin everything.He probably won't last that long.
The next few days are going to be interesting. In particular what type of Boris Johnson is he going to be now he is the PM.They won't renegotiate the WA but could give another extension. Depends on Boris's behaviour I would guess.
The only way you force such buffoon to his knees is to make him face reality. Let the UK walk without a deal, let the British economy burn and him facing the consequences of his BS. Then the voter would turn against him, he'll be kicked out in disgrace and the UK can finally return to the fold, accepting that adults should lead politics not clowns.They won't renegotiate the WA but could give another extension. Depends on Boris's behaviour I would guess.
I take it you're a Tory then?Oh come on they weren't that bad. Granted a bit posh but atleast one of them was happy with a more liberal Conservative leader!
Some of them maybe, those two were fine. Where is the tolerance from the liberals that they are so famed for? I'm guessing it doesn't count when it comes to Tories!
Or clever...
His hair.Are we taking bets on what the first thing he fecks up is?
He's going to ruin the ruins!I hope so, he's gonna ruin everything.
Agreed, it's about time Boris grew up and faced reality. And are they really worried about Corbyn?The next few days are going to be interesting. In particular what type of Boris Johnson is he going to be now he is the PM.
He will do well to focus on the immediate problems rather than the bluster of defeating the fool Corbyn.
Yes it's fitting that he will have to deal with the reality concerning Brexit, be interesting to see his approach, he'll change directions constantly I would imagine to try to wriggle out of the blame .The only way you force such buffoon to his knees is to make him face reality. Let the UK walk without a deal, let the British economy burn and him facing the consequences of his BS. Then the voter would turn against him, he'll be kicked out in disgrace and the UK can finally return to the fold, accepting that adults should lead politics not clowns.
He will blame the EU for forcing the UK to leave without a deal and making any future negotiation difficult. His supporters will blindly believe him because they were likely against the EU in the first place.Yes it's fitting that he will have to deal with the reality concerning Brexit, be interesting to see his approach, he'll change directions constantly I would imagine to try to wriggle out of the blame .
I get the point but has any party ever proposed to change this? For a compulsory general election if a PM dies or resigns?Always worth saying that capacity of wembley stadium just picked a prime minster for a country of 66 million.
Me tooI voted for Blair.
May's deal is the key I reckon. Somehow he has to get it through. Not sure how but some more 'clarification' from the EU maybe, or something concrete in the future arrangement that he can hang on to to say that the context has changed.The next few days are going to be interesting. In particular what type of Boris Johnson is he going to be now he is the PM.
He will do well to focus on the immediate problems rather than the bluster of defeating the fool Corbyn.
Well in the US we re not that far removed from Trump calling for the destruction of those who oppose him, get ready for Boris to do the same. Time to move to.. I dunno.. New Zealand maybe?They're talking about the 'final solution' on the BBC. Is this Nazi Germany?
I'd be on the next flight if someone would employ meWell in the US we re not that far removed from Trump calling for the destruction of those who oppose him, get ready for Boris to do the same. Time to move to.. I dunno.. New Zealand maybe?
Harsh comparison on Nazi Germany.They're talking about the 'final solution' on the BBC. Is this Nazi Germany?
Considering Brexiteers who advocate this deal say we're not allowed to have a second vote on Brexit because that isn't democratic, why it's fine for parliament to have to vote for something again that's been resoundingly rejected?May's deal is the key I reckon. Somehow he has to get it through. Not sure how but some more 'clarification' from the EU maybe, or something concrete in the future arrangement that he can hang on to to say that the context has changed.
If he can pull it off and the UK leaves, with a deal on the 31st Oct then everything becomes possible for Johnson. The Brexit party, although pissed off, with cease to have a raison d'etre so the chance of losing votes to them disappears. With the Labour party as it is at present he could call GE and probably win by a decent margin. May's deal, even though the numbers last time out don't stack up, is still the path of least resistance IMO. Johnson's test is whether he can sell it better than May. Remember the deficit went from -230 to -149 to -58 which means he needs to get another 30 off MP's to go for it.
For me that is the best outcome in all this.
I know but I don't find the UK system democratic at all and am sure every system has its faults but I'd prefer the president of the EU recommended by 28 heads of states and endorsed by the EU parliament than 160000 members of a political party deciding who is the PM of the UK.
Why the feck would they? It’s in their interests not to.I get the point but has any party ever proposed to change this? For a compulsory general election if a PM dies or resigns?
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Then why doesn't he? The hard work part of the rest would become academic as he'll have a majority to pass anything he wants.May's deal is the key I reckon. Somehow he has to get it through. Not sure how but some more 'clarification' from the EU maybe, or something concrete in the future arrangement that he can hang on to to say that the context has changed.
If he can pull it off and the UK leaves, with a deal on the 31st Oct then everything becomes possible for Johnson. The Brexit party, although pissed off, with cease to have a raison d'etre so the chance of losing votes to them disappears. With the Labour party as it is at present he could call GE and probably win by a decent margin. May's deal, even though the numbers last time out don't stack up, is still the path of least resistance IMO. Johnson's test is whether he can sell it better than May. Remember the deficit went from -230 to -149 to -58 which means he needs to get another 30 odd MP's to go for it.
For me that is the best outcome in all this.
I mean, there have been rumours he might. I think he'd win, but also arguably a mistake to call one - elections can be surprising and no guarantee things wouldn't change during a campaign.Then why doesn't he? The hard work part of the rest would become academic as he'll have a majority to pass anything he wants.