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A government adviser doing a press conference, i certainly can't remember anything like that happening before.
Alistair Campbell?A government adviser doing a press conference, i certainly can't remember anything like that happening before.
I wrote yesterday that given UK is now an unprecedented clusterfcuk covid19 zone, its citizens have the right to be uniquely angry and frustrated by its Government's mishandling of the crisis. Cummings has become the lightening rod for that emotion. Labour and opposition need to capitalise on this and ensure Cummings becomes the most hated man in UK.Doubt Boris is the one telling him what to do rather than the other way round.
More likely it'll be with only approved journalists and approved questions, and he'll carry on playing the autism card. Although even then it's really hard to see how that wont backfire. People have let loved ones die without seeing them. THere really is no excuse he can use where the primary reaction wont be anger.
He's asking people to accept that the nearest possible place he could find child care was literally more or less the furthest possible place away he could travel to...and that somehow driving 260 miles whilst carrying an illness so severe you couldn't look after your own children wasn't completely irresponsible in itself
Agreed. It's damage limitation mode now, don't think he can say anything that won't lead to negativity.Even that might not work. There's fury from all quarters over this.
'Trouble is, this doesn't seem to be the truth. He'd better be a damn good actor...I can see him making a passionate story about him needing to see his family...
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Thanks but not me mate. Just quoting someone from Twitter.I'm sorry to hear your news. That sounds horrific and having lost a family member on Friday in not entirely dissimilar circumstances, I can understand your anger.
they didn'tI can see him making a passionate story about him needing to see his family, followed by the public saying they would have done the same.
Ah, ok. Glad it's not you, but feel for the other guy.Thanks but not me mate. Just quoting someone from Twitter.
This isn’t news. It’s obvious to anyone that Cummings is the brains behind the PM and Boris is just the electable face.Tweet
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That was my first thought but i can't remember any during his time under Blair but I'm probably wrong. He made plenty of media appearances but not on his own behalf. Journalists across twitter seem bemused by it. Thing is they all quite rightly hate him so unless it's a resignation speech then this can't go well.Alistair Campbell?
It's just the Prime Minister giving a press conference, he's just decided not to wear his usual sock puppet this timeBy-the-by, perhaps, but...
'Ahead of Dominic Cummings’ public statement this afternoon, a number of people are flagging the government’s Code of Conduct for Special Advisers which states they must not take “public part in political controversy”.
Point 14 states:
Special advisers must not take public part in political controversy, through any form of statement whether in speeches or letters to the press, or in books, social media, articles or leaflets.
They must observe discretion and express comment with moderation, avoiding personal attacks, and would not normally speak in public for their Minister or the Department.'
He's going to distract us by finally ANNOUNCING POGBA. Or Sneidjer.Place your bets. 10/1 on Cummings resigning, being made a peer during the chaos that Brexit brings and then being selected to head some oversight committee.
It backfired then since most folk are turning it around and pointing out that the last thing you should do with a child with autism (depending where on the spectrum his child is) is take them out of their known environment and screw up their routine. If the kid was already diagnosed at 4 then it would suggest severe autism. It's shite one way or the otherTweet
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Twitter bots spread the autism line with there being nothing firm to confirm it is the case. Boris Johnson said there was a medical issue he couldn't discuss yesterday after the rumours started, but seems twitter bots are trying to garner sympathy for Cummings and nip it in the bud.
Very true, he wrote, or spoke at, many official Labour Government press conferences, and a whole host of informal 'pint-of-lager-and-packet of crisps' type press briefings... and he was very successful at it too, better than the 'Prince of Darkness' Peter Mandelson... but Campbell didn't become a Baron like Mandelson, both were capable of 'getting down and dirty' when necessary.Alistair Campbell?
I wouldn't be surprised if they've handpicked journos to ask simple questions he can bat away/play up the father instincts angle.Cummings taking questions is interesting given his often combative and disdainful relationship with journalists and the fact that coming across as sympathetic isn't exactly his forte. Wonder what tone exactly he's going to look to strike? Hope the journos are on their game.
Also wonder whose idea it is? Does he actually want to publicly respond or is he being pushed out front to try and save himself because nobody else wants to do it?
If he's anything like his employers - and he surely is - then he'll resent being questioned in both senses of that word. He isn't anti-elitist in his attitude of superiority, that's for sure.Cummings taking questions is interesting given his often combative and disdainful relationship with journalists
Seriously?! That's shocking!Good grief, they're removing their own posts on government websites, posts containing lockdown guidance that now embarrasses them in light of the Cummings/Johnson debacle.
Has there ever been a more shifty, make-it-up-on-the-fly British government than this? And 'shifty' is too kind and inappropriate a word really.
Exactly what is the point in continuing with this? For now Labour should be going after the thing that Boris is now weakest on and that is the lifting of the lockdown. Boris's 'baby steps' are unravelling but most importantly its about looking to the future. People are still frightened about the future, at some point they will want their pound of flesh, but right now attacking the government about what one of its 'backroom boys' has or hasn't done is ludicrous. For the first time in ages there is a potential breach in what the PM can control from No.10.
Starmer has to get a grip of his shadow front bench, like Boris has with his cabinet and start pulling in the same direction, not firing off at targets which have already passed by.
It was hoped by many that one positive coming out of the pandemic, is that people will be kinder to one another... and they may well do so, but inside politics its still the 'one-up-man-ship' game.
All this sniping at opposition figures, about rule breaking etc. when as any politician ever believed ,really believed the rules apply to them? The political figures in and around Parliament, during Brexit and now even in a pandemic situation only see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear. One side is now entrenched in power for five years, the other main opposition hasn't a hope in hell of achieving anything in the next five years except to harass the Government
Good points BorisEvery PM has their 'henchmen/woman' Wilson -Lady Faulkner; Thatcher -Ingram; Blair-Campbell; Brown -Balls; Cameron -Coulson; Boris-Cummings whats new about that, only Cameron lost his!
"And now we go on to the questions if anyone has any - from the Telegraph, The Sun and InfoWars only please."I wouldn't be surprised if they've handpicked journos to ask simple questions he can bat away/play up the father instincts angle.
Thanks... hope he's taking notes!Good points Boris
Is there evidence of this?Good grief, they're removing their own posts on government websites, posts containing lockdown guidance that now embarrasses them in light of the Cummings/Johnson debacle.
Has there ever been a more shifty, make-it-up-on-the-fly British government than this? And 'shifty' is too kind and inappropriate a word really.
Probably, but I'm too lazy to find it.Is there evidence of this?
Trump-esque is my prediction.Cummings taking questions is interesting given his often combative and disdainful relationship with journalists and the fact that coming across as sympathetic isn't exactly his forte. Wonder what tone exactly he's going to look to strike? Hope the journos are on their game.
Also wonder whose idea it is? Does he actually want to publicly respond or is he being pushed out front to try and save himself because nobody else wants to do it?
Think I’ve said this before but he was at the wedding of one of my best friends. His wife was a university pal of the bride. So weird. He had more hair then. Still a weaselly looking fecker.It's also tricky given the current accusations that he's the one real power in the government. Giving his own press conference doesn't exactly play against that notion.
its 'news' in that foreign media is now using this fact to mock Boris.This isn’t news. It’s obvious to anyone that Cummings is the brains behind the PM and Boris is just the electable face.
I was thinking the same, this is sabotage of the finest order or incredible naivety/daftness on part of the government.Seriously?! That's shocking!
As for Cummings doing a press conference, isn't he a massive asshole with an incredibly short fuse? Putting him in front of the press seems extremely stupid.
Indeed.Contacted mine too. This government is a disgusting entity.
I know who they are. The kind of stock they come from and the company that they keep.
I fully expected an apology. The fools to rouse and defend, and me to have to suck it up again.
That it’s a full court press of a defence. Prime Minister. His whole army. “We know you’re angry but you’re wrong because we are right”
Tell your MP. It will do scant little good. But it’s the same time cost as a list here.
Fcuk them all.