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haha that's a few hundred quid at IKEA.
My employer has a studio and I've seen firsthand how costs can spiral when building them, but £2.6m for that is ridiculous.
Presumably if Labour ever get in it'll be another 2 mill to change to red.
The UK's obsequious and complete socioeconomic/cultural realignment toward the United States in every imaginable arena post-Brexit has been disgusting to watch.
Pretty much.
It's turns out the conservative view of free speech is really about having unlimited freedom to clamp down on any form of expression they don't agree with. Not to derail the thread too much but i think it was Zizek who talks about a conversation he had with two former army men involved in the Yugoslav Wars. He talks about how they would brand to him and be nostalgic for the wars because in their view it's far right nationalism that gives people real freedom. It gives you the freedom to kill others, to ethically cleanse populations, to burn people inside their homes, etc. It allows you the freedom to do the most monstrous acts imaginable unlike the left idea of freedom.
Now while it's obviously not the same situation in the UK, likes of Priti Patel clearly really get off on the idea of curbing the freedoms of others.
Personally I would just call it very authoritarian. Britain is starting to resemble countries like Poland and Hungary, sadly.
Fair enough. Slippery slope though.
Oh yeah it's deeply concerning.
Is it just a propaganda piece? Will give it a read tonight.
Silll can't get over the fact that the PM now needs a spokesperson. Presumably this free's up more time for him to get pissed?
We really do regrgitate all the worst ideas from America.
I'm guessing £2.6m includes the costs of any building work... Secure communications lines... it infrastructure... cameras, editing studio... staffing etc ... as well as a podium some lights and some chairs... still seems high though
May and brown would probably have benefitted from one
Cameron and Blair both seemed to like being on camera and in their own way both were fairly good
Boris... somewhere in the middle ... seems comfortable at waffling and ad libbing but less ok on a formal setting so I can see the logic
Will be interesting to see who wins the succession fight (patel, gove, sunak) and if they keep the role
No issue with the spokesperson at all. Covid highlighted the need/ and desire for this.
clearly costs appear high - but the spec is obviously higher than just a blue paint job. If this helps promulgate information, then the cost is irrelevant.
Patel will still need a step to see over the podium though.
clearly costs appear high - but the spec is obviously higher than just a blue paint job. If this helps promulgate information, then the cost is irrelevant.
Patel will still need a step to see over the podium though.
But what about Starmer, does he need one? I would think yes, he does.
Right, this completes my 100% U-Turn on the Policing Bill. If called upon I shall don me boots and march to Trafalgar Square. I reckon I could get there in seven days, or ten if I take the scenic route.
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At first I agreed with you on that but when you think about all the great politicians of the past who would have been shit on camera in the modern world, it makes more sense to me. Boris isn't terrible on camera but he does give off that incompetence vibe (pretty accurate TBF) that a professional would avoid. I don't mind the messaging (ugh) being slick since communication is so important these days. Similarly Keir Starmer isn't the greatest in front of the cameras but he's clearly very capable at politics and stuff.
The trouble is it will inevitably end up like the American version where nothing of substance is ever said, difficult questions are batted away without actually being answered, and the whole thing just becomes a crap weekly theater that becomes ultimately pointless.
Wasn't Alastair Campbell effectively Blair's spokesperson?
This is why I hate Kuenssberg. She's a fantastic journalist when she isn't just parroting whatever Boris has told her. That's a decent piece of insight.
Do you understand what spokespersons do? It's called propaganda for a given principal, not information.
I stopped reading at "modellers in the building", which sounds like Cummings bs.
No, just a representative of a political party and PM who have repeatedly lied and spread misinformation.
That's the spirit.
Only problem is, 95% of the time she is in full parrot mode!
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And now, he wants the UK to have more nuclear missiles. In what possible scenario does Boris actually think that we are going to require more nuclear weapons than we have now.
What we most certainly need are more conventional forces.
Because you can almost guarantee that at some time in the near future, we are going to have to use them.
But these are being cut.
Am I missing something?
Call me a cynic but how much money goes "missing" during the entire process to purchase and develop nuclear weapons?
It's an awful, awful piece of legislation proposed by one of the most terrifying politicians (Priti Patel) of a generation.
This is just...awful. So so awful.
Policing bill: Plan to crack down on protests passes first Commons hurdle despite civil liberties warning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/policing-bill-protests-government-vote-b1818118.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/policing-bill-protests-government-vote-b1818118.html
How much money do the nuclear lobby donate to the Tories is the question.
I don't think I've ever agreed with anything you've posted regarding politics but I agree with every single word of that sentence emphatically.
How can something so nebulous potentially become a law?
The day after voting for the policing bill, Dominic Raab is lecturing the world on the fragility of democracy. Is this some sort of sick joke?
Democracy is in retreat, warns Dominic Raab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56423716
Democracy is in retreat, warns Dominic Raab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56423716
No, but ironically it was this type of propaganda set up that treats constituents as consumers which allowed for the baseless invasion of Chemical Ali's country.
The top twenty economies stand at 40trillion to 16trillion (14trillion of that being Chinese) in terms of democracy to autocracy. The third and fourth richest autocracies (Saudi and Indonesia) are also NATO allies.
He's a lying cnut.
I mean can i just clarify is he saying America is a stable, freedom- respecting democracy... because Im pretty sure they have been involved in quite a few
Fair play, shame some of the others are happy to let this one pass in silence.
I’ve worked on projects similar to this and that did not cost anywhere near 2.6m