Fellaini probably would have been a great squad player. He was normally quite good when given specific roles to fill, whether it was defensively or offensively. SAF would have loved to have him in his squad for that reason IMO. It wasn't his fault that the team was so poor that he was generally first choice and expected to play as a normal central midfielder which didn't suit him or the team at all. I've always felt he got treated quite harshly by the fans and media because of that.
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I can't see Weghorst ever replicating the kind of performances Fellaini put in for us against a dominant Man City. There was a minuscule improvement in Weghorst's touches yesterday, but the contribution he makes remains utterly insignificant. For all Martial's faults, Weghorst should never be starting ahead of him.
Feel a bit sorry for him.
He is so clearly out of his depth in such an obvious way - he does nothing but running.
He is so clearly out of his depth in such an obvious way - he does nothing but running.
Just saw the season review. It's no wonder that Ronaldo is the top-scoring player in this sport. He sees passing spaces and opportunities, makes a run, makes a sudden off-ball movement, and bam, there's a space created. Having more top-notch players behind him last season would have allowed him to have 10 more goals easily, but our players were unable to see the same spaces or were afraid to try. Proper goal scorers are different from runners. I now, really oppose this hard-working pressing machine with a non-toxic personality idea. In order to make a serial winner team, we need to find the next toxic, egoistic, greedy, selfish, and best players.
- worst passing accuracy in the team, next player above him is 5% better and it's Elanga. Only player who is worse than him in the entire squad is de Gea.
- only Garnacho, Mainoo, Elanga, vdb and Pellistri have been involved less passing wise than him per game
- 11th in the team for aerial duels
- on par with Sancho when it comes to interceptions and tackles which means his defensive game is waaaay overrated
- fourth most disposessed player in the team
- 8th when it comes to bad touches
- Elanga is the only forward who hasn't scored, same as him, except he played twice more minutes than Elanga
It's not like we need stats to tell us this, but still many people in the matchday thread were competely fine that he starts ahead of the likes of Martial, Sancho, even Sabitzer or even some combination with Pellistri.
Ten Hag's mate.
- only Garnacho, Mainoo, Elanga, vdb and Pellistri have been involved less passing wise than him per game
- 11th in the team for aerial duels
- on par with Sancho when it comes to interceptions and tackles which means his defensive game is waaaay overrated
- fourth most disposessed player in the team
- 8th when it comes to bad touches
- Elanga is the only forward who hasn't scored, same as him, except he played twice more minutes than Elanga
It's not like we need stats to tell us this, but still many people in the matchday thread were competely fine that he starts ahead of the likes of Martial, Sancho, even Sabitzer or even some combination with Pellistri.
Ten Hag's mate.
Most of us will have a hard time wrapping our heads round why Weghorst is starting at no10 with far superior players being shifted out of position. And also why he's starting when we have Garnacho, Sancho, Martial, Sabitzer and even Fred on the bench that could have played instead in numerous combinations. But I think we just have to accept ETH has a weird penchant for playing this guy.
At this stage one of his staff needs to grow a set of balls and call him out on it. His continued inclusion is costing us points and games. If it continues it will cost us top 4.
At this stage one of his staff needs to grow a set of balls and call him out on it. His continued inclusion is costing us points and games. If it continues it will cost us top 4.
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Offered absolutely nothing - but that was to be expected. I don't even know why we got him on loan. It's always like playing with one man less when he's on the field. Might as well put another defender, or anybody for that matter on if we're out of strikers. He's that useless, really. I'm sorry to say this because I think he's a hardworking player with a great attitude, but that's just not enough.
Was obvious what he offered initially, but every ounce of that dissipated some time ago and he’s been an absolute liability ever since.
I, and many others, have asked if there’s seriously not a player to promote from the unders who at least has some upswing to being fielded in terms of development whilst finding their feet because this iteration of Wout would never get out of the academy to be in such a prominent position in our literal first team.
Maguire absolutely should not field again for us outside of injury to the CB’s starting, and he’s levels and levels and levels above Weghorst, so it goes without saying that the same, by a magnitude of order, should apply to Weghorst.
This is a 9-figure high stakes race for CL football; we’re not able to carry anyone, and having active detriments to the team fielding is not respecting the stakes we’re playing for.
There are a number of players from the 1st squad that should field in that role before Weghorst. Post isn’t about dislike or hatred, rather observation and it being abundantly clear that the player is definitively out of his depth, not only as a United player, but as a PL player, as there’s no team in the league he’d start for… outside of us, apparently.
By now, it’s not about panning the player, it’s about the genuine concern he could be a key contributor in us not getting top 4.
I, and many others, have asked if there’s seriously not a player to promote from the unders who at least has some upswing to being fielded in terms of development whilst finding their feet because this iteration of Wout would never get out of the academy to be in such a prominent position in our literal first team.
Maguire absolutely should not field again for us outside of injury to the CB’s starting, and he’s levels and levels and levels above Weghorst, so it goes without saying that the same, by a magnitude of order, should apply to Weghorst.
This is a 9-figure high stakes race for CL football; we’re not able to carry anyone, and having active detriments to the team fielding is not respecting the stakes we’re playing for.
There are a number of players from the 1st squad that should field in that role before Weghorst. Post isn’t about dislike or hatred, rather observation and it being abundantly clear that the player is definitively out of his depth, not only as a United player, but as a PL player, as there’s no team in the league he’d start for… outside of us, apparently.
By now, it’s not about panning the player, it’s about the genuine concern he could be a key contributor in us not getting top 4.
Sorry but he is way out of his depth. Why did we not go for Joao Felix if we are looking at short term loan options? Heck, even Trossard was available on the cheap. ETH got to take the blame here I'm afraid.
If he starts another league game, Ten Hag has lost his mind honestly.
There is simply no benefit nor justification for Weghorst playing.
On top of this, his inclusion usually results in having to move Bruno out of position. I don't rate Bruno as highly as most, but he's still our best 10, was central to some of our best stuff this season in said role, and just doesn't have the skills needed to remain a threat when shifted wide. It honestly hinders us rather than it just being an inconvenience.
Apology accepted and you didn't go for Felix because of the costs involved.
He cost Chelsea way, way more than Weghorst cost Man United.
That would have been a fair enough statement at anytime over the last 2 months. And yet he keeps starting him and bringing him on despite no one else being able to see any tangible benefits to him playing.
What do we reckon he’s going to cost when we make his move permanent in the Summer?
Burnley won’t want him back as they are implementing a more adventurous, possession style football under Kompany so I can’t see them driving the price up too much. Probably £8m or so.
Burnley won’t want him back as they are implementing a more adventurous, possession style football under Kompany so I can’t see them driving the price up too much. Probably £8m or so.
WOuld much rather spent the 8M in a rough diamond than on a player that will offer nothing more than a half-decent rotation option.
Yeah I said as much in other threads: ETH needs serious heat turned up on him if he allows this Weghorst fascination and De Gea loyalty to cost him results. De Gea is more about the contract and next year, but Weghorst should be a no brainer decision to stuff him at the far end of the bench, especially given the fact that we are mostly fit in attacking options currently.
Those who go to games, do the fans ever show any discontent towards him, or get vocal about how bad he is?
I can remember being at a game and there was a guy REALLY getting after Pogba (who granted was never one for effort a la Martial)
Our fans are great but almost too loyal.
Could you imagine Real Madrid's fans if this guy kept being played, no matter what, including at the expense of way better, contracted players?!
I can remember being at a game and there was a guy REALLY getting after Pogba (who granted was never one for effort a la Martial)
Our fans are great but almost too loyal.
Could you imagine Real Madrid's fans if this guy kept being played, no matter what, including at the expense of way better, contracted players?!
Match going fans boo’d Nani and Fellaini but gave Moyes a standing ovation even when we lost every other week. Too loyal to the wrong people
Wout Wout
Let it all out
His are the goals
We can do without
Let it all out
His are the goals
We can do without
Yeah well I was a bit fond of him at the beginning as he seems an enthusiastic fella but man he really doesn't bring much to the team at all. No way we should even think of keeping him.
Fixed that for you.
He's very bad at football isn't he?
The only thing I can think is that ETH is proving a point that work rate and attitude is as important (If not more important) than raw ability. If Wout is early to training every day, trains hard and is a good character and ETH is using this to prove a point then there may be a little logic to it.
Misheard ass for asset
yes pleaseWe would be mental to keep him, but also the people running this club are bigger cnuts than I thought if they're stringing the poor bloke along.
Signing Wout Weghorst for next season should be grounds for dismissal for every single senior figure at the club. It simply cannot happen.
Balancing act, you want to keep him happy for the rest of the season, he might get you that fa cup winning goal. In the summer, you can always say 'Hey, the new owner has changed direction and wants a different striker'.
Atleast that is what I hope is happening with him and De Gea.
That's my thinking.
Anyone who thinks differently is pure nuts. Regarding De Gea maybe a few weeks ago ETH had some doubts, but that's gone now surely. Wout days are numbered, this isn't even a story worth discussing.
Playing hard to wout are we
even as a completely free signing that takes zero of our transfer budget, it would be mental to bring him back. Just takes minutes from players who can actually help us or become something much more than Wout could ever be. I mean what his best moment in the last month or so was a tame side footed effort from outside the box?
If we start next season with De Gea as our number 1 goalkeeper and Weghoust still at the club, I feel the season will be a bust
Every manager seems to go a bit weird in their second full season, like they want to be sacked
I have faith Ten Hag has proper ambitions for the club
Every manager seems to go a bit weird in their second full season, like they want to be sacked
I have faith Ten Hag has proper ambitions for the club
Scenes when we offer this guy a 3yr+ deal while also renewing DDG and Martial.
It won't just be a bust, It will genuinely be the beginning of the end of Ten Hag, which is a shame, because I have belief in this guy.
You have to be kidding me. The board better bloody block this, or he'll be added to the ever increasing list of deadwood. ETH absolute obsession with him is making me seriously doubt the guy, and I had such high hopes for him. Absolutely shocking decision if we sign him, we should have returned him to Burnley already
Gives hopes to us on the cafe that to play for Manchester United it seems pashun and running around a lot are more important than ability.... Have some fecking standards
What next, Fred the Red in defence?
Hopefully WW "future" is lead singer of the singing section at OT they tried to establish that time.... It should not by any means, be on the pitch
Exactly.
All he realistically has to off is his effort and possibly disruption of opposition attacks.
He could probably never have imagined that he would play for Manchester United.
‘Focus on our goals in the league’. How about scoring a goal, Wout? That might help.
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