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shaky

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Let's not forget, he scored 4. One chopped off for offside but he still put it away like a pro :D
 

RedMaestro

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His free kicks really are garbage :lol:
I respectfully disagree. This one was really bad but he's not a free kick specialist but he's had some nice free kicks. He's better when it's from a distance, when it's closer he just tries to get it on goal (sometimes between two players or under their feet). Free kick highlight follows:

 

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That's the thing, i don't hate him. I don't rate him tho, because I've always considered him to be a mercenary. His switch from Juve to Inter, than ditching Inter to join Barca and subsequent move to Milan and than money move to PSG.

Can you honestly say he was the best man on the pitch tonight?
Well, then you can't be unbiased as you laugh at me defending Zlatan all the time but at the same time you don't rate him and think he's a mercenary so you will always be harsh on him while I will always look to defend him. But both you and me support United and want the best for the club though!

Not even close to the best man but man of the match for me because of the goals, aside from the goals he was poor, no doubt. Martial was the best player on the pitch.
 

wr8_utd

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Anyway like my first post in the thread for the night said, as long he scores and we're winning, can't really complain about anything else. I'll take him being shit and continuing to score till the end of the season.
 
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I've always considered him to be a mercenary. His switch from Juve to Inter, than ditching Inter to join Barca
Yeah I mean he should have shown loyalty to a team that stripped him of 2 titles and got relegated for being a bunch of cheating twats. Riiiight @Fracture

And no top player has ever left a good club to player for Barcelona before :lol:
 

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What a loon.

Zlatan could score 40 this season and you'll be banging on about how other players would have had 50.

We're nowhere near as good as you're making out.
To be fair, there is ONE only ONE, player who I feel in this particular team, would be scoring more than Zlatan.....and thats RVN. His positioning and knack for being in the right place was literally as good as I have ever seen. He usually reacted faster than defenders to the ball and was a clinical finisher. He would be the ultimate forward for this Jose team. But Zlatan at 35 is a big deal! I would thoroughly enjoy it if Zlatan bags 35+ goals and then I will curse that we didn't get him when he was younger.
 

wr8_utd

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:lol:

I doubt he will get 40 tbh.

What a hat trick though. I don't know how he does it.
He could get to 35 quite easily. We have deep runs in the cups and lots of league games left and Zlatan plays almost every minute. We'd be disappointed if he didn't touch 35 now. I think he'll finish between 35-40
 

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He's directly contributed to 30 goals from 35 appearances. That doesn't include secondary assists (if you're familiar with ice hockey, you'll understand).

Thor has been fantastic so far and he arguably should be on better numbers because by his lofty ass standards, and he'll admit, he should have buried a few more.
 

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Anyway like my first post in the thread for the night said, as long he scores and we're winning, can't really complain about anything else. I'll take him being shit and continuing to score till the end of the season.
And respect for you for saying that because I remember you were harsh on him when he didn't score in october and you said that goals matter only. You stand by that and has given him credit so fair play.
 

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Anyway like my first post in the thread for the night said, as long he scores and we're winning, can't really complain about anything else. I'll take him being shit and continuing to score till the end of the season.
He really wasn't "shit" tonight. I'm amazed at the different standards you hold for him and Rooney.
 

wr8_utd

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To be fair, there is ONE only ONE, player who I feel in this particular team, would be scoring more than Zlatan.....and thats RVN. His positioning and knack for being in the right place was literally as good as I have ever seen. He usually reacted faster than defenders to the ball and was a clinical finisher. He would be the ultimate forward for this Jose team. But Zlatan at 35 is a big deal! I would thoroughly enjoy it if Zlatan bags 35+ goals and then I will curse that we didn't get him when he was younger.
Ruud would get 40 goals a season easily in this team :drool:
 

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I prefer Martial off the left where he can put his dribbling to good use. Rashford is good but not good enough to be first choice starter yet imo.



He could have easily scored some 10 more goals. That is how much we create (and miss).
The massive assumption here is that the goals he did score, your other mythical pacey high-converting striker would've scored. Surely you can see the flow in your logic?

It is like when people say that had their team scored that chance earlier, it would've been 3-0 instead of 2-0. That's not how it works.

If you replace Ibra with another player who has another profile, said player might not create the chances Ibra did create, or score the goals he did score. Sure he might score some chances Ibra missed, but the overall effect might not be a positive one.
 

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Well, then you can't be unbiased as you laugh at me defending Zlatan all the time but at the same time you don't rate him and think he's a mercenary so you will always be harsh on him while I will always look to defend him.

Not even close to the best man but man of the match for me because of the goals, aside from the goals he was poor, no doubt. Martial was the best player on the pitch.
Than why again did you say you mentioned me in your post? I always give him credit when it's due and when he's performing. But for you he's always performing even in games where 99.9% of people agreed he isn't.

Tonight he was lucky and it benefited us, propa to him for that but his performance really wasn't special.
 

wr8_utd

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He really wasn't "shit" tonight. I'm amazed at the different standards you hold for him and Rooney.
I've often admitted to Rooney being rubbish and still getting goals as well when he's had those sort of games. I think Zlatan in the past couple of weeks has the sort of games where his game and touch isn't quire there but he's scoring and hence can't be faulted.
 

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Not too many? Maybe the goal against City off the top of my head.
Everton? His disallowed goal against Middlesbrough? But it's not fair to do so - how certain can one be that a different striker would be in that scoring position? These were Ibra's goals and someone else would maybe not even have had a chance to score his "easy ones"...
 

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That's the thing, i don't hate him. I don't rate him tho, because I've always considered him to be a mercenary. His switch from Juve to Inter, than ditching Inter to join Barca and subsequent move to Milan and than money move to PSG.

Can you honestly say he was the best man on the pitch tonight?
Thing is, Inter-Milan-Juve moves are far more common than Barca-Real/Arsenal-Chelsea etc. Is Pirlo a mercenary? He played for all three.
 

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He wasn't shit. He wasn't brilliant either.
 

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Is that the first time one of our players has scored a hat trick since 12/13?
 

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That's the thing, i don't hate him. I don't rate him tho, because I've always considered him to be a mercenary. His switch from Juve to Inter, than ditching Inter to join Barca and subsequent move to Milan and than money move to PSG.

Can you honestly say he was the best man on the pitch tonight?
Yes that is how a player should be rated. You are spot on. Feck qualifications, it is all about how long you stay at one place.
 

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Than why again did you say you mentioned me in your post? I always give him credit when it's due and when he's performing. But for you he's always performing even in games where 99.9% of people agreed he isn't.

Tonight he was lucky and it benefited us, propa to him for that but his performance really wasn't special.
He scored 3 goals and you said you would give him cred when he deserve it. I defend him very often yes, but mostly when people give him abuse without reason. I don't dislike any of our players and you will see me defend Fellaini too like in his thread tonight but of course that wasn't popular either.
 

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One less than Lewandowski has this season, and there's a thread in the FF debating whether or not he's the best striker in the world. On a free transfer as well.

Well, to be fair so was Lewandowski, but you get the point.
 

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Someone of Zlatan's calibre should be on 30 already. You can make a long list of sitters you'd bet your house on Zlatan scoring which he's somehow missed. It's not just him though, a lot of our players have missed ridiculous chances. We might not be great but we do create a lot and the reason we draw so many is not because keepers become supermen but because we're just not clinical enough.
I would actually like someone to list all of his so called missed sitters, preferably with a video so everyone can decide. What do you count as a sitter? What does count as a goalkeeper doing a great save and the striker not missing a "sitter"?

And later I would like the same person or someone else to make a list of these missed "sitters" from the other top goalscorers so we can compare. After that we can all see if Ibra really is that bad with these "sitters"...
 

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If he was a mercenary he would have went to China and not come to United.
 

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I respectfully disagree. This one was really bad but he's not a free kick specialist but he's had some nice free kicks. He's better when it's from a distance, when it's closer he just tries to get it on goal (sometimes between two players or under their feet). Free kick highlight follows:

At Utd they have been shite, though. Let's agree on that, please.
 

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His overall game was ok but nothing great tonight, however he's a goal scorer and we need him badly.
 

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Well, then you can't be unbiased as you laugh at me defending Zlatan all the time but at the same time you don't rate him and think he's a mercenary so you will always be harsh on him while I will always look to defend him. But both you and me support United and want the best for the club though!

Not even close to the best man but man of the match for me because of the goals, aside from the goals he was poor, no doubt. Martial was the best player on the pitch.
Now imagine being called a hater for saying that.
 
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