Vorsrung durch technik mit Kroos Kontrolle?
He's fecking utter dross. Not anywhere near the top 20 strikers in the world, so he isn't welcome here.Mandzukic? He's hardly a lump of shite.
Hallo! Wie geht's?Maybe we should just talk German here so that Herr Kroos can understand how much he is wanted here?
Failed to make, or didn't need to make? We were winning under Fergie, you knowKroos & Mata would be the serious acquisitions Sir Alex failed to make
Mandzukic is shite.He's fecking utter dross. Not anywhere near the top 20 strikers in the world, so he isn't welcome here.
Yep.Mandzukic is shite.
Mandzukic.Wait, hold on just a second...did I read that Moyes was there to scout that useless lump of shite, mandrake, or whatever his shit name is?
feck me, that better be a lie.
Wait, hold on just a second...did I read that Moyes was there to scout that useless lump of shite, mandrake, or whatever his shit name is?
feck me, that better be a lie.
Wait, hold on just a second...did I read that Moyes was there to scout that useless lump of shite, mandrake, or whatever his shit name is?
feck me, that better be a lie.
Strengthening when you're strong, particularly in areas we failed to replace would've made us stronger no?Failed to make, or didn't need to make? We were winning under Fergie, you know
No one expected us to drop so far outside the top 4 and get knocked out of both domestic cups by mid-January. These results must have been shocking for both Fergie and the club. No one in their right mind would expect the Champions to do this badly. Fergie probably has loads of confidence, but even he probably wouldn't believe that he made a 20 points difference
Moyes hasn't signed a single Scholes or Giggs-like player either, tbf. He's brought in Fellaini and a "better" Kagawa.Sir Alex's investments 2009 onwards didn't do enough to properly replace key players like Giggs and Scholes and that is an undeniable fact, regardless of success. It's certainly made David Moyes' job more difficult!
Moyes signed him in FM and was the top scorer in the league for 2 years...... then sold himHe's fecking utter dross. Not anywhere near the top 20 strikers in the world, so he isn't welcome here.
Had a good laugh, cheers. Mandrake.Wait, hold on just a second...did I read that Moyes was there to scout that useless lump of shite, mandrake, or whatever his shit name is?
feck me, that better be a lie.
What are you talking about? Mata is a top class player who would improve all but 3 teams in the world! Kagawa isn't in his class, as good as he was, can be, or will be.Moyes hasn't signed a single Scholes or Giggs-like player either, tbf. He's brought in Fellaini and a "better" Kagawa.
Fergie's transfers since 2009 haven't been that bad imo. Valencia, Hernandez, DDG, RVP and Kagawa isn't a bad lot. Valencia was obviously signed to try and fill the void left after Ronaldo. And while that didn't work, at least Valencia was very good up until last season. But Fergie retired before he had time to fix this.
Fergie may have ignored the central midfield for too long, but what if we genuinely couldn't sign anyone that was considered good enough for our starting XI? We don't know what happens behind the scenes. For all we know, the Glazers didn't open their eyes before now, after seeing United in 7th place. They might just have taken it for granted that United are best in England. At the end of the day, we were still either winning or close to every season. And last season we did well in the CL. We went out because of a ref, not because of incompetence.
At the end of the day, it's harsh to blame Fergie for anything.
All part of the service, my love.Had a good laugh, cheers. Mandrake.
Shut the feck up!Moyes hasn't signed a single Scholes or Giggs-like player either, tbf. He's brought in Fellaini and a "better" Kagawa.
Fergie's transfers since 2009 haven't been that bad imo. Valencia, Hernandez, DDG, RVP and Kagawa isn't a bad lot. Valencia was obviously signed to try and fill the void left after Ronaldo. And while that didn't work, at least Valencia was very good up until last season. But Fergie retired before he had time to fix this.
Fergie may have ignored the central midfield for too long, but what if we genuinely couldn't sign anyone that was considered good enough for our starting XI? We don't know what happens behind the scenes. For all we know, the Glazers didn't open their eyes before now, after seeing United in 7th place. They might just have taken it for granted that United are best in England. At the end of the day, we were still either winning or close to every season. And last season we did well in the CL. We went out because of a ref, not because of incompetence.
At the end of the day, it's harsh to blame Fergie for anything.
Shut the feck up!
Mata is obviously a big star, but he's very different from Scholes and Giggs. THAT was the point I was trying to make!What are you talking about? Mata is a top class player who would improve all but 3 teams in the world! Kagawa isn't in his class, as good as he was, can be, or will be.
A beautiful sentiment, expressed perfectly.Shut the feck up!
Damn. I got entangled in my own net.I wasnt being serious.
Yes, how DARE I defend Fergie! That bastard is to blame, not Moyes! Moyes is a flawless manager and a genuis in the transfer market, unlike Fergie!Shut the feck up!
You're not understanding my point. I'm not saying he is Giggs or Scholes, I'm saying we ignored replacing them with class players for far too long and got away with it due to a the best manager in the world and a host of quality forwards.Mata is obviously a big star, but he's very different from Scholes and Giggs. THAT was the point I was trying to make!
The CM is pretty much the same as it was under Fergie... So no, I don't think Moyes deserves "transfer credit" just yet. Good that he could bring in Mata, but he stills plays in a position we don't particularly need(unless we change our style completely). And I'm just paraphrasing Gary Neville there.
He seems to have spent a lot of time with Breese, though. Reports say that he was with him as they arrived at the stadium and then the photos are of them in the crowd.Kroos is a CM too ffs...doesnt matter anyway. These German players are almost automatons and rarely break rank..especially from Bayern. He is posturing for a better deal. I think Moyes was watching Herrmann.
So let's say we lose Rooney and RVP and replace them with a world class CM. Would that be considered replacing RVP and Rooney?I'm not saying he is Giggs or Scholes, I'm saying we ignored replacing them with class players
Wow Mad WingerYes, how DARE I defend Fergie! That bastard is to blame, not Moyes! Moyes is a flawless manager and a genuis in the transfer market, unlike Fergie!
When @akash02 said to shut the feck up...he meant it for your own credibility. What are you talking about?So let's say we lose Rooney and RVP and replace them with a world class CM. Would that be considered replacing RVP and Rooney?
How did you get promoted in the first place?Wow Mad Winger
So Mad
Such Mad
feck off Mad Winger
I sucked off Shinji. Bet that makes you mad eh?How did you get promoted in the first place?
You said that Fergie didn't do enough to replace Giggs and Scholes, and argue that Moyes is doing just that by bringing in Mata. I don't see the connection. By this logic, Fergie did the same thing by signing the likes of Valencia, Kagawa and RVP.What are you talking about?