There's not a chance in hell you'll continue playing at the pace you were at last season now that you're in the Champions League. It's just not maintainable.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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TBH Lallana is a very good footballer. Maybe not a world star, but he can shine in a good collective.
I still think that he's better behind the striker because he's very poor when defending.
Still unsure about mighty slippy Steve next season with a lot of game.
Hope we'll knock them again ! I'm looking forward the derby's this season
I still think that he's better behind the striker because he's very poor when defending.
Still unsure about mighty slippy Steve next season with a lot of game.
Hope we'll knock them again ! I'm looking forward the derby's this season
In terms of personnel at the back, we'd find it hard to improve hugely on the likes of Agger & Skrtel in the CB positions. I'm sure we're trying, but I'm convinced our defensive frailties can be rectified by tactical changes rather than signing more players. We do need one or two fullbacks though, and I wouldn't be too happy with just Ryan Bertrand.
No, I don't think you'll replace Suarez with a superstar.
We didn't with Ronaldo.
Spurs didn't with Bale.
We didn't with Ronaldo.
Spurs didn't with Bale.
Spurs did with Lamela.
Seem to recall United playing with lots of pace in your treble winning season with the likes of Giggs, Yorke, & Cole running teams ragged.
He's had a terrific impact upon them...
Doesn't matter who they bring in, Liverpool are not making top 4 next season without Suarez.
The impact he's had is irrelevant. He was still a huge signing and a massive coup for a club not in the CL.
He's not all that great. Roma replaced him with Gervinho ffs.
I'm not seeing your point here. Spurs clearlt did attempt to replace Bale with a superstar signing like Lamela. He's been a failure so far which is entirely irrelevant to your original point.
Lamela wasn't a superstar signing though. He's a potential superstar signed for a big fee.
Basically the same kind of signing as Eriksen was, just for a lot more money.
Basically the same kind of signing as Eriksen was, just for a lot more money.
You think Lamela was a 'superstar' when he joined Tottenham? I'd rank him in 'promising young foreign talents' (and I really rate Lamela), but not superstar by any means.
He was a lot more than a promising young talent.
I really don't think he was. 2 years in Europe in a good but not elite club, good stats, still very young. Not superstar at all, or you consider loads of signings to be superstar signings.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/erik-lamela.334033/
Read through his thread and you can see how people were building him up (I did too in the newbs).
Even if I did, do you think it would change my opinion on him? And I've said I rated him, I'm contesting the "superstar" tag.
I just don't know what your standards must be to reckon that's what he was, but of course you're free to have that opinion.
They had a CM of Roy Keane and Paul Scholes/Nicky Butt. You have Joe Allen/Gerrard(now 34) and Henderson.
So, what your saying is you'd be happy if Suarez was replaced with someone as similar a standard as Lamela?
Liverpool will do similar to what Spurs did, and sign a few players but no superstars. I'd argue the closest to a superstar they signed was Paulinho due to the confederations cup the previous year.
Liverpool will do similar to what Spurs did, and sign a few players but no superstars. I'd argue the closest to a superstar they signed was Paulinho due to the confederations cup the previous year.
If the biting, the bans and the racist insults haven't had a destabilising effect on the team, then I would hate to see what he would have to do to cause one.
Agreed. If you want to know how Liverpool were able to play like they did last year, look at the results list for Liverpool and City in October, November and December respectively.
During that period Liverpool played just 13 games while City played 20 - and every extra game was a mid-week fixture, which has a particularly huge impact on fitness. Its no surprise that Liverpool were at their strongest in the New Year, they just had a lot more in the tank than their rivals. Three months of one game a week, of course you can play 100% when Saturday comes.
If you're a smaller club, then selling your stars to bring in three or four decent players is a good move. But when you're at the top end of the table you need players who can make the difference in tight games, or who inspire those around them.
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Good squad, i think they'll fight for the top 4 but fall short. Chelsea + City for the top two - United/Arsenal/Pool fighting for 3rd.
What's that got to do with the fact that your side was able to play with pace right throughout the season whilst competing on 3 fronts ? Suddenly, being in this Champions League thingy is going to a massive burden for Liverpool, despite the fact that every side that has ever won the Premier League has also played in Europe during the same season.
Redman5 liverpool are not going to compete on 3 fronts with a midfield like that. Last season they were out both cups early that helped them in the league. This season they will be in 2 domestic cups Europe and up against a stronger city united and Chelsea
I agree it's massively overstated Athletico have a tiny squad and competed to the end in both league and CL.
Well if Rodgers is has smart as many make him out to be as a manager, he will pick and choose how to use gerrard. I can see him playing about 35 games in all competitions, so he's not burnt out, has he reaches the twighlight of his career
You are forgetting the united treble winning side finished with just 79 points, do not forget united threw 2 0 leads in some huge away games, spurs and Liverpool away for example. So while united won the treble with a very small pool of midfielders, they only collected 79 points, which would not be enough in this day and age. 89 to 91 points is what is expected of the PL champions, with 86/87 PTS at most
What does that even mean? Because two clubs had reasons not do, we will likely do similar?
What about the clubs who signed big names after selling their star player? Are they going to influence our decisionmaking to the contrary?
---------------Mignolet---------------
Flannagan--Skrtel--Sakho--Johnson
-----Henderson-----Gerrard-----
Sterling------Coutinho------Lallana
---------------Sturridge---------------
Subs: Reina, Agger, Toure, Lucas, Allen, Lambert, ????
Erm yeah I'm not worried about them at all even if they did pull off Sanchez (though I suspect Shaqiri is more likely)
Flannagan--Skrtel--Sakho--Johnson
-----Henderson-----Gerrard-----
Sterling------Coutinho------Lallana
---------------Sturridge---------------
Subs: Reina, Agger, Toure, Lucas, Allen, Lambert, ????
Erm yeah I'm not worried about them at all even if they did pull off Sanchez (though I suspect Shaqiri is more likely)
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Liverpool swapping Suarez with Ricky Lambert sounds good to me.
Cool how their £26m signing doesn't even make the bench
Barney probably reckons it's their superstar signing.
Forgot about him, well that sorts the position on the left
Are there any more of these threads? One for City and Arsenal?
think it going to be intresting how they handle gerrard next season
he obviously isn't going to be able to play CL football and PL football every week. so how is rodgers going to manage that?
it also whether rodgers is gonna have the balls to drop gerrard, it was glossed over ast season, but his over all play wasn't god, yes he can still hit beautiful long passes, and is great at set pieces, but he is playinng just infront of the back four, and is an utter liability in that position. he was one of the main reasons liverpool where so poor defensively last season.
so it going to be interesting how that progresses
he obviously isn't going to be able to play CL football and PL football every week. so how is rodgers going to manage that?
it also whether rodgers is gonna have the balls to drop gerrard, it was glossed over ast season, but his over all play wasn't god, yes he can still hit beautiful long passes, and is great at set pieces, but he is playinng just infront of the back four, and is an utter liability in that position. he was one of the main reasons liverpool where so poor defensively last season.
so it going to be interesting how that progresses
Will do one soon.
No matter who they get in this summer, that fear factor will be severely weakened without Suarez. You could tell that teams completely shit themselves from him early on and the game would be over in the first half. It was similar to Ronaldo for us, they'd back off him and he'd win the game within the first half hour. I really think they'll drop out of the top 4 next season without him.
I can't see them challenging for the title again tbh, especially if Suarez leaves, they might make the top 4 but I'd be surprised if they do much more than that, don't rate their defence much either.
imo if LVG gets our team working then we should expect to finish above a Liverpool side without Suarez.
imo if LVG gets our team working then we should expect to finish above a Liverpool side without Suarez.