We're already quite shit. And I don't think he's made a massive difference to us. Additionally, given that di Maria probably would have started in place of Young, I think he'd have performed similarly; if not, he'd have created as much, if not more.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
- 9
- Goals
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- Assists
- 6
- Yellow cards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Good game today. Memphis will have to play consistently well to keep Young out for that spot on the left.
Great game from him today, fantastic attitude.
So the solution to our shittiness is to drop our most dangerous looking player going forward?
See, this is what I don't get. When a team is playing shit how does it make sense to drop the only player even attempting to create chances? I don't mind Di Maria coming in (although he absolutely does not deserve it on his recent performances) but it should not be for Young.
Only Ashley Young could pick up man of the match and still get criticised on here.
but, but... what if Di Maria played instead??!
but, but... what if Di Maria played instead??!
No I didn't say that. You said without him, we'd be even shitter. I said without him, we'd have had di Maria starting in his place and he'd have created more, no doubt about it.
It's just a hypothetical.
The criticism is fair, though. He doesn't create enough. Yes it was a good performance, but we needed better.
He and Mata are assigned the role of the creators, yet neither create enough.
He's doing absolutely excellent at 90% of what is required, with the 10% being his final ball which is too often poor.
Based on recent games I doubt that. Regardless, if we're looking for players to criticize Young should be somewhere near the bottom of that list.
He's been MoTM vs Arsenal and City lately, both top sides.
Today he had an assist for Herrera, vs City he got a goal and created 2 more of the 4.
Not to mention his work rate and being defensively astute into the equation.
Seems fine to me?
But hey, what if Di Maria played instead?!
With Memphis coming in i won't be surprised if he starts whipping in balls like Beckham next season.
Given he has less assists than Ashley Young that's not very likely
Just look in the Di Maria thread how different he is when comparing Young and Di Maria. With Di Maria he can play how awful as possible, if he's getting assists it doesn't matter how poor he played, Young on the other hand..
Is there still time to vote for the player of the season and if yes where can I vote? He deserves to win it for sure. He gives 100% every game.
Since the attempted home break-in, his form has flatlined, literally flatlined dead, he's an infinitely more talented player than Young, nobody is denying it, but the probablity of him coming in today and giving away 30 terrible passes, not look arsed coming back from offsides or attempt to chase his man down, but then... maybe create one chance, is higher than him suddenly pulling a good performance where he stars despite his confidence hitting rock bottom.
Just feels like an bias mindset against Young on here, the guy is putting in MotM team performances, he deserves his place and even... some praise!.
I've said nothing other than the fact that his final ball is very poor, it's fair; and I'll say no more.
Like I said before, it was a good performance. Nothing more, nothing less.
Fantastic performance. That is all.
He was brilliant today. Has been all season. Definitely agree that he's been our best outfield player.
Great to see him performing so well Fully deserves a new contract.
He's one hell of a player when his contract is running down.
I'll put it this way: In his last 12 starts, he's scored 2 and assisted 4. Yes, he's put in shifts, here and there, but it's quite simply not enough.
New contract would be deserved.
Been our best player?
Di Maria's started 19 games this season. In how many of them was he our best player?
You love stats when comparing Di Maria and Young, but Di Maria's last 8 starts he has 0 goals and 2 assists. Simply not good enough and that's what got him dropped. Oh and being one of our worst players in all those games too..
If you like this type of Young, just wait until Depay gets his jiggy on.
Just let him play for a contract against next season.
Was excellent today. Amazing what confidence can do to a player
An assist every third game and goal every six is a good return for a winger in any context (Beckham and Giggs good). Add that to the fact that the team have been lacklustre in a fair few of those games and it makes the return quite impressive. He has also been one of the only players to consistently stand up and take the responsibility of wanting the ball and trying to create something, many of his cohorts have shirked this challenge over the last two seasons.
I don't think he is the solution moving forward but you can't use his current form/productivity to justify that.
What a game from him! Loved seeing him confident enough to attempt to dribble, and succeed too.
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I've used stats to specifically state that di Maria's season hasn't been as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I've never said he's been our best player; if you can find a quote where I've implied that, then please do so (as I don't remember).
As for Young being our best player, I just don't think he has. Players are judged on results, not effort. Is Park Ji-Sung remembered as a great for the effort he put in? No, I wouldn't think so. Young, for me, doesn't do enough which is partly why we've won 1 of our last 5. It's as if people on here are trying to make up for the times they overly bashed Young for his performances in 12/13 and 13/14 by now overly hyping these ones. I remember how many criticised Young last year for his "blind" crosses, which he's continued delivering this season, but it's all forgotten.
As for the di Maria performing to a similar level to Young, it's hardly farfetched. In, arguably his worst season, he's created and scored double the amount of goals Young has.
I'm all for effort and defensive responsibility, and I've quite enjoyed how much effort Young puts in with his tackling etc. But going forward, he's not good enough.
Do remember this is just my opinion.
I've used stats to specifically state that di Maria's season hasn't been as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I've never said he's been our best player; if you can find a quote where I've implied that, then please do so (as I don't remember).
As for Young being our best player, I just don't think he has. Players are judged on results, not effort. Is Park Ji-Sung remembered as a great for the effort he put in? No, I wouldn't think so. Young, for me, doesn't do enough which is partly why we've won 1 of our last 5. It's as if people on here are trying to make up for the times they overly bashed Young for his performances in 12/13 and 13/14 by now overly hyping these ones. I remember how many criticised Young last year for his "blind" crosses, which he's continued delivering this season, but it's all forgotten.
As for the di Maria performing to a similar level to Young, it's hardly farfetched. In, arguably his worst season, he's created and scored double the amount of goals Young has.
I'm all for effort and defensive responsibility, and I've quite enjoyed how much effort Young puts in with his tackling etc. But going forward, he's not good enough.
Do remember this is just my opinion.
You can, though. In our last few games, he's received so much of the ball, yet he's created two in five and we've only picked up 3 points from 15. Like I've said before, him and Mata, recently, have not done enough. You'd expect more from Man United wingers/creators.
Hater. The only player willing to take on beat players is not showing us what a Man utd winger is expected to be
It may not be evident, but I'm actually quite a fan of Young. I, honestly, expect more from him, as I believe he's capable of a lot more, such as is performance against City.
It's amazing how he's turned it around, he's buzzing, attacking, defending, everywhere. He's continually putting that stupid "LVG told them to not take risk" theory to bed every game. More than every he's attempting more dribbles, attemting more crosses and more final third passes, even though it does't always come off, honestly the guy has made me look like an absolute mug and I like that.
Start of the season if you'd told me Young would be in the team ahead of Januzaj and Di Maria I would have laughed my ass off but credit to him hes really stepped up. Just shows what a good manager can get out of his players
Another top performance. He is 30 this summer so a rolling one year deal would be appropriate.
Same. I knew Januzaj would not feature much, but was shocked to see Di Maria less involved as well.
He should be on a 1 yr rolling contract. As my Arsenal mate remarked during the game "he only plays well when he's got something to play for".
I think LVG instruct him to use his left leg more often, and that's the reason he is regain his form,
The down side is, due to his weak foot he has some of inconsistent cross, but he can work on his weak foot in preseason.
More often I think some of his cross are good but due to our forward's lack of imagination there is no one to receive.
I can't blame him he is giving 100% and if we have proper right winger who can do half of thing like young we could be more dangerous.
Its look to predicated to me.
And if he is not good enough, than I wonder apart from DDG, Rooney which players are good enough for our club?
The down side is, due to his weak foot he has some of inconsistent cross, but he can work on his weak foot in preseason.
More often I think some of his cross are good but due to our forward's lack of imagination there is no one to receive.
I can't blame him he is giving 100% and if we have proper right winger who can do half of thing like young we could be more dangerous.
Its look to predicated to me.
And if he is not good enough, than I wonder apart from DDG, Rooney which players are good enough for our club?
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