Hm Modrić played as a left midfielder in 4-4-2 in Dinamo, not as nr. 10 but I get your point, he was closer to the goal and was gradually moved behind.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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modric is a modern day playmaker. not a deep lying one like pirlo/xavi. maybe periera could develop into that. modirc also started on the wings for spurs when he first joined them and slowly moved infield to play in the middle. at the moment he just needs regular game time either in the middle or on the left. lets see what he eventually develops into
Exactly and the deeper Modric has gone in his career, the better he's gotten till now where he's arguably the very fines player in his position, in the world.
I compare them cause they have very similar qualities. Technically very good without necessarily being elite, can keep the ball extremely well under pressure, can drive the ball forward when needed, works hard for the team, has an outstanding passing range. Something Pereira is better than Modric at is shooting from range. While the choice of the centre mid position has always been whether to play a box to box or a playmaker I reckon any team that values the ball more than defensive contribution would love to have someone with his qualities running the system. Given we have a dutch manager who preaches looking after the ball, Pareira will be perfect for the role.
Is developing nicely. He's only 19 so hopefully he remains calm. If he get's 10 or so games this season then he'd be doing pretty well. Hopefully we get some good cup runs and maybe even win one of them.
I dont think his passing is similar to Modric. Modric is very good at keeping the ball, Pereira gives it away too often even though he has the vision to create something
Other than that I can see it, but he'd have to take to learning the defensive side of the game like Modric has over the past 3 years or so
Surprised how young he is. Always thought he was 21/22. Great to see. Hopefully he can provide cover for a few positions this season, and maybe develop enough to find himself in the starting line up a few times!
He played deeper than a 10 most times last season and he thrived just like he thrived in that position during the Milk Cup. He played as a 10 in the Moyes season and he struggled. I don't think he's that dangerous as a 10. I often feel like he doesn't threaten much with his passing in that position and often times finds ways for himself to shoot. Further back he's able to operate with a little more breathing room to combine with others.
Of course his position changed for the u21s last season as did most players because the u21s always has a wide variety of players from the 1st team and older reserve players.
I've not been one to watch loads of U21 games etc...
But I don't see the Thiago in him, myself. I understand why some might, but he doesn't look like a dictator or tempo-setter like Thiago, and his technique simply isn't as perfect. Thiago is more of a smooth player, a glider - which I wouldn't say about Pereira.
I actually think Pereira's very very similar to Herrera.
But I don't see the Thiago in him, myself. I understand why some might, but he doesn't look like a dictator or tempo-setter like Thiago, and his technique simply isn't as perfect. Thiago is more of a smooth player, a glider - which I wouldn't say about Pereira.
I actually think Pereira's very very similar to Herrera.
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Modric comparisons - not a bad call, he certainly has all the skillset which modric had when he was young. Pereira can develop into almost anything I guess. If he works hard on his defensive contribution ie taklcing and reading of the game he could be class deep laying playmaker. He showed he can drive the ball like Scholes, spreading it wide, the only concern is if he can maintain that level of passing over 90mins, he tends to make one or two mistakes like Herrera sometimes does so the usage of him further up the pitch is currently better once he refines his passing.
For me he's great attacking mid, left sided b2b player with the ability to float around making runs having a go at goal and dropping deep if needed, not sure if Van Gaal will ever give him that much space to express himself but he certainly have a lot of skills in himself to play more adventurous role in the team. Him and Januzaj are pretty much the same in this, Januzaj could work like that even further the pitch as his hold up play is good enough and he's tall enough to eventually became some sort of striker but we will see. For now I don't think Van Gaal will give a chance to both players at the same time, which is a shame imo
For me he's great attacking mid, left sided b2b player with the ability to float around making runs having a go at goal and dropping deep if needed, not sure if Van Gaal will ever give him that much space to express himself but he certainly have a lot of skills in himself to play more adventurous role in the team. Him and Januzaj are pretty much the same in this, Januzaj could work like that even further the pitch as his hold up play is good enough and he's tall enough to eventually became some sort of striker but we will see. For now I don't think Van Gaal will give a chance to both players at the same time, which is a shame imo
I'd say he's more Sneijder than Modric, he's potentially more of a match winner than a controller of games though he has that in his locker too.
He has exceptional flair and technique though which differentiates him from these European giants we are comparing him too.. This could be his downfall as well as strength as he might not be trusted due to the mistakes he might make as he is a very direct player but at the same time, he is a very unique player.
I think I'd prefer him in an Iniestaesque role in a three man midfield, freedom to go where he likes but starts out more left sided.
He has exceptional flair and technique though which differentiates him from these European giants we are comparing him too.. This could be his downfall as well as strength as he might not be trusted due to the mistakes he might make as he is a very direct player but at the same time, he is a very unique player.
I think I'd prefer him in an Iniestaesque role in a three man midfield, freedom to go where he likes but starts out more left sided.
All these people he's being compared to have superior technique. It's the basis of what they've become. I guess he's busy, like a young Modric, but Modric's technique at 20/21 was superior, tighter and more consistent.
He's still very good technically, and he's got flair, but in a Herrera kind of way, in my opinion. Not the smoothest and cleanest, in terms of controlling the ball and getting weight on passes, but (like Herrera) he can do a flick or turn that other, more perfect technicians can't.
I don't see Sneijder or Thiago at all. They both let the ball do the work completely, except for when Thiago goes on one of his runs. And, again, I just don't think Pereira's touch is tight enough to develop into a player who lets the ball do the work - which is exactly what I'd say of Herrera too.
Whereas that Ødegaard kid, for example, or Oliver Torres both have that tight technique that could see them become that type of player.
He's still very good technically, and he's got flair, but in a Herrera kind of way, in my opinion. Not the smoothest and cleanest, in terms of controlling the ball and getting weight on passes, but (like Herrera) he can do a flick or turn that other, more perfect technicians can't.
I don't see Sneijder or Thiago at all. They both let the ball do the work completely, except for when Thiago goes on one of his runs. And, again, I just don't think Pereira's touch is tight enough to develop into a player who lets the ball do the work - which is exactly what I'd say of Herrera too.
Whereas that Ødegaard kid, for example, or Oliver Torres both have that tight technique that could see them become that type of player.
Great player that should get game time, fitting him in is going to be the challenge, but he is certainly good enough, naturally gifted creative player with goals in him
Not replacing the guy but he is made to compete with herrera IMO; one day i expect him to overtake him too.
this is all getting a little too over analytical and a little silly. Boffins and train spotters spouting nonsense.
His technique is incredible.
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Herreras touch is basically flawless, definitely not worse then the ones you mentioned, don't think that's a fair example... Maybe passing wise, but that's more with Herrera's long passing as his short passing is really good as well. Its more the way he moves with the ball, more direct and with a purpose, not really graceful calm like the ones you mentioned.
Herrera's is great. But Modric's and especially Thiago's is even better. No shame in that, though. He's definitely got a looser touch/dribble/pass than both.
In contrast, that Odegaard kid, has a touch/dribble closer to Thiago's level.
Sorry we don't all just drink the kool-Aid about him being the next Modric, or United's 'own Thiago', when he's clearly nothing like them. Especially Thiago.
Tend to agree with you on this but I feel that Pereira will be aiming for a higher goal and assist output than Modric and Thiago. I see his future role as being closer to a Mata type player.
I agree about the output. He's less tidy than them (no, this doesn't mean he's completely untidy, before somebody goes off on one) but more direct, more of a risk taker, and stations himself higher up.
When I watch Pereira, I see the Arsenal version of Fabregas, and a bit of Herrera. Two of the more direct post-Xavi Spanish midfielder. I know he isn't Spanish, but they make a good reference point.
A bit like both, he doesn't show the same desire to let the ball do the work. He wants to be busy, and make things happen with each pass.
Mata's the best finisher in the squad. Is Pereira's finishing to a high standard?
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He is a dead ball specialist like Mata and likes to take free kicks and corners, he also scores spectacular goals like Mata. I am not sure if Mata is the best pure finisher in the squad though, he doesn't really get in those positions too often.
I think he looks a superb prospect, and I hope to god he gets some game time this season.
Reminds me of coutinho most. He's got that low centre of gravity coupled with the technical skill which allows him to navigate superbly in tight spaces.
Dont worry about it, sometimes I forget this is exactly what these forums are for and I type shite.
Me too. His best attribute is his agility, like Coutinho.
His best attribute is the manner with which he receives the ball. He can receive it comfortably with any part of his body, either foot be it inside or outside. He knows how, when and why to receive it under pressure and does a superb job of it. He is comfortable receiving the ball at pace and equally comfortable travelling with the ball at pace. He has quick feet and plays with his head up. These things help make agility look even better. He can use either foot in any situation and generally chooses well when to do this. Not many players can deliver quality corners and crosses with either foot consistently. Hopefully he is going to develop into a very good player for us.
Yeah, @Stack, I was writing quick, but I basically meant agility in receiving the ball and turning away from markers. The two-footed thing will come in handy for sure, too, though I expect him to be inconsistent with his shooting and passing, which is normal for young players anyways.
I know this is jumping the gun and possibly unrealistic but it would be pretty cool if he ends up in a few years time meaning we all forget about Pogba. Pereira also appears to me to have a pretty level headed sort of attitude.
I get @RooneyLegend's comparisons with Luka, they are similar but he reminds me more of Kovačić. Well of Kovačić of old, before he got lost in wilderness.
Reminds me of when we compare cleverley to Iniesta, Xavi and Scholes 
That happened?Reminds me of when we compare cleverley to Iniesta, Xavi and Scholes
Well, not exactly like that. But there was a period, in here, where Tom Cleverley, was not considered complete dog shite. I know it's hard to believe, but he was really showing promise in his performances.
He did and I remember that. I think with him it was his lack of confidence that prevented him to be a good player. Of course he wasnt as talented as first thought too.
Certainly more Luka than Kovacic for me. Kovacic is made of the technical material that very few players are ever made of. The ball is 'one' with his body.
He's similar to them. He appears busy because of how he's currently being used. Play him deeper and ask him to control our game he'll pass it about and make the ball do the work.
Technically he's not on thiago's level but I don't know a centre mid(no 8) who's on his level. Wouldn't say he's all that inferior to Modric in those stakes and imo is ahead of herrera.
Yep, to be fair it was only in relation to style.
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