Dele Alli is England's best young midfielder playing in Turkey

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He was in the team that destroyed United in the league cup. He did very well in that game, but our fecking manager was blind not see the talent in front of him.
 

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Pogba, a highly promising 18 yo youngster at Manchester United, was on the outside looking in with Carrick, Scholes, Anderson, and company for a premier team in England and Europe. Alli, a promising midfielder from the 'lower leagues' and now player for a better than average team, has never faced the same pressure or adversity as Pogba at the same age. Alli would never have gotten into the same Manchester United team.

I think the comparisons are silly. Pogba, before his 21st birthday, has played for two of the very best teams in their respective countries and has won titles, the FIFA U20 Golden Ball, Golden boy, FIFA young player of the year award, and started in the EUFA Champions League. He's probably the most sought after midfielder in the world at 22. If Manchester United were in a similar position as Tottenham he would most likely would have played more.

On the other hand, Alli may win the Barclay's young player of the year award for a team with aspirations of making it into Europe and has a strong chance of making this summer's Euro 2016 team.

I hope this puts things into perspective.
The bias is this is unbelievable.

The comparisons are pointless anyway. I think Alli will prove to be better than Pogba in the long run. He's absolute class. Watch him.
 

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He was in the team that destroyed United in the league cup. He did very well in that game, but our fecking manager was blind not see the talent in front of him.
just like how wenger was blind to not see Martial's talent?
 

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just like how wenger was blind to not see Martial's talent?
Martial was far from a hidden gem. Everyone who was anyone had people keeping tabs on him.

A potential £57m transfer isn't the same as finding a £5m from lower leagues.
 

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Him and Barkley playing as the more forward 2 in a 433 for england would be the shit. Imagine a prime scholes behind them just keeping possession and pinging it out in that pirlo role.:drool::(
 

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I remembered when Pochettino came to that game(United vs Mk Dons) to scout Welbeck from United. I wonder whether Spurs interest in Alli came from Pochettino being present at the game. If it did, that adds more credibility to Pochettino managerial acumen.
 

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Him and Barkley playing as the more forward 2 in a 433 for england would be the shit. Imagine a prime scholes behind them just keeping possession and pinging it out in that pirlo role.:drool::(
It happened against France, but with Dier behind them instead. Looked promising, in my opinion. We (England) could do with a holding player in the mould of Scholes/Pirlo/Alonso etc, though. At the moment, we only have Carrick. Think that's why Hodgson was trying to convert Wilshere into a holding mid.
 

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I remembered when Pochettino came to that game(United vs Mk Dons) to scout Welbeck from United. I wonder whether Spurs interest in Alli came from Pochettino being present at the game. If it did, that adds more credibility to Pochettino managerial acumen.
Off topic, but if Welbz had more sense, he would have went to Spurs instead of Arsenal, especially as Pochettino has enact of working with young English talents. Wouldn't have played up top so much, due to Kane's prominence, but I think Pochettino would have made him into a very successful wide forward - similar to how he used Jay Rodriguez at Southampton.
 

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They both play behind the forward. Well, they usually do.
Which is true, but the point is that they're entirely different kind of players. Ali looks like someone who would be pretty well suited to playing box to box in midfield two. He offers plenty in terms of tackling/off the ball from what I've seen.
 

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Probably saw it, but wasn't sure he's worth the pricetag. I'm still not.
Martial was far from a hidden gem. Everyone who was anyone had people keeping tabs on him.

A potential £57m transfer isn't the same as finding a £5m from lower leagues.
The comment I replied to is that "We didnt buy him even though we played against him". Im sure these clubs knew about Delle Alli in the same way but big teams are very wary about buying from League one and putting in the first team. I remember Bayern and Liverpool among clubs who sent scouts during our MK Dons game. Its just that they didnt think its worth putting him in the first team just like we probably did. Similarly none of those teams felt he is good enough to warrant a 36m move. He seems very good and probably will go on for big things the way he is going. Martial wasnt a hidden gem but Alli was hardly a "hidden" gem either
 

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Which is true, but the point is that they're entirely different kind of players. Ali looks like someone who would be pretty well suited to playing box to box in midfield two. He offers plenty in terms of tackling/off the ball from what I've seen.
So does Barkley. He's a bit more of a box-to-box in the Toure mould with a bit of Scholes. That sounds bizarre but it's the two lazy and easy comparisons i can make when describing his possession play and his driving runs.
 

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The bias is this is unbelievable.

The comparisons are pointless anyway. I think Alli will prove to be better than Pogba in the long run. He's absolute class. Watch him.
:eek: If he becomes as good as Pogba, England and Spurs will have an amazing midfielder on their books.
 

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I know he scores good goals and that he has very good attacking movement but how would you describe in other aspects of the game ? I mean his passing, tackling, anticipation. Are the goals what he is all about or do they make him even more impressive ?
 

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What a player.

Why the f*ck didn't we sign him when he tore our team to shreds when he was playing for MK Dons?! :mad:

Yet we're happy to spend £31 million on a player that flops like a fish for when trying a backpass. Unbelievable.

Anyway, I'm just angry in general today.
 

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goal of the season... Alli is simply English Pogba if not better, watch him in few years, he's world class talent and top potential..
 

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I know he scores good goals and that he has very good attacking movement but how would you describe in other aspects of the game ? I mean his passing, tackling, anticipation. Are the goals what he is all about or do they make him even more impressive ?
He's very strong in the tackle, but for me.. he's bit like Pogba in that he isn't really a proper CM.. he doesn't really dictate games and floats around, bit like a technically gifted super powered Frank Lampard. Still a great player to have in your side but he needs to develop the playmaking side of his game. For me he is more intelligent than someone like Barkley but has less drive/ability to link up play than Barkley.. as he is just a more languid character in general. It makes him composed as feck though in front of goal which is the upside.

If he can improve his passing/movement in the midfield zone, work on wanting to control games as well as win them.. he will be world class. Either way, he is destined to be a top player who will feature in teams competing for titles.
 

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I know he scores good goals and that he has very good attacking movement but how would you describe in other aspects of the game ? I mean his passing, tackling, anticipation. Are the goals what he is all about or do they make him even more impressive ?
I'd say that he's not just about goals and attacking movement. He's also an aggressive tackler, very mobile and energetic (a true box-to-box CM), a decent passer of the ball and shows real commitment and passion. And for a 19 year-old whose jumped straight from League 1 to playing for Spurs, he has so much composure that you'd think this was his 3rd or 4th season in the Prem.

Barring injury, I think it's a certainty he'll be in the England Euros squad ... and very possibly as a starter.